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Kit
28-12-14, 23:05
Baronald (http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-12967-baronald-cartland-bridge-hotel-lanark)

If you look at the bottom of this article it says there is a portrait of A J Crawford Farie. I would be interested in seeing this portrait if anyone could manage a photo or find a way of finding it online?

Merry
29-12-14, 07:09
You could try contacting the hotel and see if someone would take a photo and email it to you. Their email addy is on this page:

http://www.bw-cartlandbridgehotel.co.uk/contact-us/

I did see some images of the dining room where a couple of portraits could be seen in the background so it would seem the pictures are still there.

Is this the person you are after (b 1881, d 1931) or is he someone further back?


Marriages Mar 1910
FARIE Allan James C St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 755
WALKER Frances Mary St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 755

Kit
29-12-14, 09:38
Thanks Merry.

That is the man Merry. I'll contact them straight away and fingers crossed they still have it and will take the photo.

Kit
30-12-14, 08:42
I got a reply today and they sent me all portraits not just the one I asked for.

The portrait I wanted is of my 3g grandfather's grandson. Having looked at the photo, he looks like a pretty young (5yo) girl. :eek:

Merry
30-12-14, 08:46
lol So not really what you were expecting!

At least they responded quickly!

Kit
30-12-14, 09:48
Not at all lol.

I have no idea why but I had expected an older person in the portrait.

As he was 5 (I think) it would have been painted in 1886-1887 in Scotland so maybe that is how young boys were dressed.

Anyway I do have to recommend the Cartland Bridge Hotel in Lanark for their excellent service. They did not have to reply to my query at all and to have responded within 24 hours is fantastic. From the photos the place looks lovely as well.

Kit
30-12-14, 09:59
I hope this works.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x61/KitTheKat1/AJCrawfordFarieaged5abt1886_zps18f3e069.jpg (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/KitTheKat1/media/AJCrawfordFarieaged5abt1886_zps18f3e069.jpg.html)

kiterunner
30-12-14, 10:22
Yes, young boys used to be dressed like girls in those days.

maggie_4_7
30-12-14, 10:52
Yes, young boys used to be dressed like girls in those days.

As late as that though?

Is that a riding crop in his hand?

I was looking at that hotel recently as one I might stay in when I go up to Scotland in the summer.

Kit
30-12-14, 11:16
oh Maggie if you do stay there could you take a better picture of the portrait please? I'd love to confirm the age as it is a bit blurry on the picture.

I've been googling and in the 1980's there were portraits of the parents of the above sold for what looks like over 2000 pounds each. The mother had 2 sold, one as a 5 year old and another that I assume was an adult. No where can I find pictures but the painter was Robert Crawford. I'm wondering if he was a relation.

Merry
30-12-14, 12:38
The riding crop was often used in paintings and photos to denote a boy before he's breached. Boys were usually breached at age 4. Breaching carried on until about 1900 (as a ceremony) particularly amongst the middle and upper classes.

Merry
30-12-14, 12:45
My father was born in 1920 into a working class family and whilst he wasn't 'officially' breached, he did go through a connected ceremony in that his mother wouldn't cut his hair (golden ringlets, according to him) until he first went to school (aged 5) so he looked like a girl, except for wearing short trousers, until then. The hair cutting involved the attendance of all the family and a large pair of scissors wielded by his mother!

maggie_4_7
30-12-14, 13:56
The riding crop was often used in paintings and photos to denote a boy before he's breached. Boys were usually breached at age 4. Breaching carried on until about 1900 (as a ceremony) particularly amongst the middle and upper classes.

Ahh right that makes sense then he's wearing a 'frock' and it's before his breaching.