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Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Christiana Atkinson
Date and place of birth
Abt 1788 Dean St, Holborn, London
Names of parents
Thomas and Mary Ann
Date and place of baptism
March 3rd 1788 St Andrew's, Holborn
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Thomas Headland - details not traced, but may have been Non Conformist
as first three children were baptised at Providence Independent Chapel,
Uxbridge.
Occupation
Seamstress
Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or
haven't found him/her on
1841 - Chapel St, Islington
1851 - Trinity St, Islington
1861 - 13 Great Sutton St, Clerkenwell
Date and place of burial/cremation
Died March 1871 Camberwell - burial place not traced
Details of will/administration of their estate - if applicable
Not traced
Memorial Inscription - if any
Not traced
Unless they were Quakers or Jews they wouldn't have had a non--conformist wedding before 1837 (at least they shouldn't have!)
How do you know her maiden name?
How do you know her maiden name?
Answered that myself now!
Unless they were Quakers or Jews they wouldn't have had a non--conformist wedding before 1837 (at least they shouldn't have!)
Sorry Merry - I do remember that now.(Slinks into corner, wearing dunce's cap)
tenterfieldjulie
13-11-14, 08:48
What was the earliest baptism date of their children, to give you an approx. marriage date and was the surname always transcribed as Headland?
tenterfieldjulie
13-11-14, 09:26
Vita, I was just having a little look at the children's baptisms and I noted bapt 1806, 1808, 1810 then 1821, 1824 and 1831. I thought that is strange the big gap. I thought possibly prison or military.
(From memory) I looked on Ancestry and found that Thomas Headland enlisted April 1815 and fought in Belgium at Waterloo and he also received a pension with his name written as Corp Thomas Hedgland. Not sure if you know this or have reason to discount it but thought it worth mentioning. Julie
As well as the baps you mention Julie, there's another in 1836 at St Pancras for a dau, Amelia Julia, born in 1827.
There's another at St George Hanover Square:
10 January 1816 Charlotte Christiana born 10 Dec 1815. The family are of Bird St, father a painter. So that one is right in the middle of the gap! (and 6 months after Waterloo!). As Thomas enlisted in April, Christiana must have been newly pregnant. Does the army record state a discharge date? (I couldn't find the army record)
Well, hello both! A bit late joining you today. Very interesting developments - thanks a lot.
Julie - sorry I didn't get to post b/dates before you did, but with Merry's addition of
Charlotte Christiana you have accounted for all. The amateur genealogist friend who did
a lot of the original work for me has pencilled in "another?" in between CC & Matilda Jane
b 1821, but I've never been able to trace another child.
I've haven't come across Thomas with a different spelling of surname before, but other
Headlands (likely father Isaac & sibling Robert, thread "A Stubborn Brick Wall" refers)
appear as Hedland or Edland.
The enlistment info is new to me - well done. Likewise the Bird St address.
Ooooh, I do love it on here!
Apologies - above should read "With the addition of Charlotte Christiana & Amelia Julia."
tenterfieldjulie
13-11-14, 19:23
Merry I found the Listing by looking at Ancestry, Thomas Headland, with approx. birth 1780 + then looking under Military and clicking on All areas.
Hope the following is accurate:
2 entries under UK, Military Campaign Medal & Awards Rolls 1793-1949:
1. Listed as Thomas Headland, 1815 Belgium -
Then under View Heading was typed Battle of Waterloo 1815, Cavalry, Wagon Train, Artillery & Footguards and written was No. 105 Thomas Headland, Date of Enlistment April 1813.
2. Listed as Thomas Hedgland, 1815 Belgium
written - Nominal list of Deaths, Desertions and have since left the Troop Woolwich 31/5/1816 -
Rank - Corp Thomas Hedgland - Bracketed with Pensioned Medals to be addressed to ? Greenwich ?
Julie
Julie - do you think the approx. date would have a five year leeway? My Thomas was
definitely not b before 1785.
Interestingly, 1813 is round about the time the family relocated from Uxbridge, where
Thomas was b, to central London, just a few streets away from where Christiana was b -
presuming that Dean St, Holborn is the Dean Street in Soho & that Bird St is the one.
just off Oxford St.
tenterfieldjulie
14-11-14, 05:29
Vita .. the information that I brought up didn't bring up a birthdate .. that was just what I put in and I think the +was 10 years leeway. The dates it brought up were - enlisted April 1813 & he had left the troop by 31/5/1816, you would need to find his actual enlistment and or discharge to see his age. The mods in here will know if they are available online. I think some records are at the TNA.
For my OH's military ancestor history, I had Kevin Asplin a military researcher look at the actual records of musters etc, but before you paid for that you would need to know for sure that the Thomas Headland at Waterloo was your ancestor Thomas Headland.
Thanks Julie - I realise you needed a starting point, just wondered what the leeway might be. Thanks also for info - must try to find out more.
Mary from Italy
14-11-14, 11:27
Yes, the TNA have the discharge records, but they haven't been digitised so you have to ask for an estimate for copying them.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22thomas+hedgland%22
Yes, the TNA have the discharge records, but they haven't been digitised so you have to ask for an estimate for copying them.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22thomas+hedgland%22
Thanks Mary - would love to know if it is indeed my Thomas.
A few days ago I finally discovered the details of Christiana's marriage to Thomas
Headland:-
24th June 1805 in Horton, Bucks.
This is the first time the hamlet of Horton has cropped up, but as its only around ten
miles from Denham, home to Thomas's maternal line, I suppose that is the link.
If anyone has access to Buckinghamshire records that may provide further details, I'd
be most grateful. This one has bugged me for ages!
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