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OH's 3xg-grandfather and his family lived in the same street in St Pancras from 1822 until after the 1841 census.
Dau and I are going on a shopping trip to London tomorrow ad I wanted to incorporate one bit of family history whilst we are there, so I thought to visit this street//area would be nice. However, firstly I cannot find what happened to this street since 1841 and I also cannot find it on Greenwood's Map of London 1827 or a couple of other contemporary street maps. Sooo....clearly it existed as I have quite a few records mentioning their address as between number 13 and 46 West Street Somerstown.
The 1841 enumeration district description page says:
All that part of the parish of St Pancras situated on the north side of the New Road comprising Judd Place West, West St, James St, Skinner St on the West side, Brewer Street on the west side, Brill Yard, Perry St on the west side and Perry Terrace.
Here's a link to that. (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/MDXHO107_684_685-0369?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f search%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d8978%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing)
I found Judd Place East (not West) and a couple of those other streets on Greenwood's map and a couple of the other streets, but not West Street. Can anyone help please? :)
maggie_4_7
26-10-14, 08:59
It was just leading off Euston Road it's between Wilsted Street and Skinner Street. Between Euston Station and Kings Cross Station facing Judd Street. Map dated between 1862 - 1871.
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury.jpg
I think the British Library has been built right over it.
lol Thank you so much Maggie! I will save the map and attach it to our tree, so I don't do this again in five years! Dau will be v pleased it's gone lol!!
Merry - your OH's ancestors & mine would have been almost neighbours if they were
still there later that decade!
Thanks for map, Maggie - enjoyed it!
Although OH"s ancestor moved to Southampton in the mid 1840s his siblings and their descendants stayed in Somerstown foe several decades. Perhaps we should be comparing surnames vita !
kiterunner
26-10-14, 10:55
Dau will be v pleased it's gone lol!!
Not if you insist on visiting the British Library so that you can stand on the ground where it used to be!
Although OH"s ancestor moved to Southampton in the mid 1840s his siblings and their descendants stayed in Somerstown foe several decades. Perhaps we should be comparing surnames vita !
Yes lets! G/g/grandfather was a dyer & scourer(bet he wasn't a veggie!)in
nearby Seymour St & had three or four other addresses in the immediate area
too.
G/g/g/ grandfather was buried at St Pancras Chapel, which I believe is even
closer to West St.
Always feel at home when I arrive at Euston station!
maggie_4_7
26-10-14, 11:54
This is the site I got the map from:-
http://www.mappalondon.com/
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/map.htm
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury-map.htm
Not if you insist on visiting the British Library so that you can stand on the ground where it used to be!
What a good idea! lol :D
Yes lets! G/g/grandfather was a dyer & scourer(bet he wasn't a veggie!)in
nearby Seymour St & had three or four other addresses in the immediate area
too.
G/g/g/ grandfather was buried at St Pancras Chapel, which I believe is even
closer to West St.
Always feel at home when I arrive at Euston station!
I'll post a list later after I've made the (lumpy?) gravy.
This is the site I got the map from:-
http://www.mappalondon.com/
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/map.htm
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury-map.htm
Thanks Maggie.
Right, vita....
William and Lydia Cotton came to West St Somerstown in 1822. He died in 1834 and some of the family were still there in 1841. Lydia lived at 36 Middlesex St, St Pancras in 1851.
Their children:
Henry Cotton m Frances Hunt and they lived at West St (1841) Albion St Islington 1851/61) ad 20 Wakefield St, St Pancras (1861). Other surname associated with Henry's twig: Dore, Walford, Tunbridge, Oxer, Pannell, Tattersall, Mathie, Tully, Erwood, Strickland, Pollock, Bellamy
Mary Cotton m Charles Bambury and they lived at Eagle St, Holborn (1841). They then split up but she lived at 130 Drury Lane, St Giles (1851), Arthur St, St Giles (1861/71), 180 Euston Road, St Pancras (1881), 32 Melton St, St Pancras (1891), 28 Tolmer Square, St Pancras (1899). Other Surnames associated with Mary's twig: Barnard, Shortland, Godley, Gray, Cloke
Elizabeth Cotton m Joseph Prior and they moved to Shoreditch.
William Cotton (OH's 2xg-grandfather) m Jemima Alford and lived with Emma Packer. He moved to Southampton with Emma. Before that, he lived at West St and Wood St, St Pancras, Little Coram St, St Giles.
Clark Cotton m Mary Matilda Clements and they moved to Bethnal Green.
Arthur Cotton m Emma Louisa Lynch ad they lived at 12 Seymour Row, St Pancras for several decades. Other surnames associated with Arthur's twig: Summers, Ball, Hodge, Boakes
I can find Seymour Street, but not Seymour Row on Maggie's old map. Its supposed to have changed it's name to Eversholt Row, but I can't find that either.
Well Merry,you've probably guessed mine are ........... Headland!
G/g/grandfather Henry William1 was the Seymour St. dyer & scourer & is there in 1851
a widower for the second time with his three daughters. (Son HWH2 had moved on)
I was wrong about his other addresses being nearby though. I see they were York Place
& Upper St. - both Islington.
None of your names appear with mine, but the area certainly does. Must check your
addresses & dates just to see how close they were. By 1859 HW1's third wife had
become the only one to outlive him after just a few weeks of marriage (must get round to
sending for that death cert!) & his children were scattered around the family.
His father Thomas is the one buried in St. Pancras Chapel in 1847. He lived at Chapel St.
I can find Seymour Street, but not Seymour Row on Maggie's old map. Its supposed to have changed it's name to Eversholt Row, but I can't find that either.
Just seen a ref to "Seymour - row, Little Chelsea." Will dig further.
lol vita! How come your tree is all one surname?!!!!! :D:D:D
The 1871 description of enumeration district covering Seymour Row says:
Grafton Place, Seymour Row, Seymour Mews (now part of Euston Street, formerly called Seymour Crescent), Wellesley Street
Ah, I've found it - A side turning off Seymour St just by Euston Square.
lol vita! How come your tree is all one surname?!!!!! :D:D:D
Ha ha! None of the others are in that area of London, so I eliminated them re
Euston & surroundings.
Just seen an 1869 Post Office Guide that says "Seymour Row, Euston Square."
Uncle John
27-10-14, 13:52
Another useless fact! The British Library is built on the site of Somers Town goods sidings which were adjacent to St Pancras. I remember seeing on the TV many moons ago a race to Paris which involved an early Harrier jump-jet taking off from the coal-drops which were at the north end of the site. It left in clouds of coal dust.
Another useless fact! The British Library is built on the site of Somers Town goods sidings which were adjacent to St Pancras. I remember seeing on the TV many moons ago a race to Paris which involved an early Harrier jump-jet taking off from the coal-drops which were at the north end of the site. It left in clouds of coal dust.
Rarely do I find a fact entirely without interest,UJ.A friend once told me I had
the largest store of "useless information" she had ever come across.
Heather P T
16-11-14, 18:35
My son used to live in somerstown. He referred to it as Camden:) It was built as a "model" estate I seem to remember.
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