BlueSavannah
14-08-14, 08:37
My great x 5 grandparents are William Johnson & Mary Burden who married in Charlbury, Oxfordshire on the 29th May 1810. They had 4 children in Charlbury; William 1813, Charles 1815, Lucy 1817 & John 1819. On all 4 baptisms, William's occupation is given as Leather Dresser. Mary died in 1819 with John a couple of months after. Both buried in Charlbury.
After this, William (my great x 4 grandfather) and his brother Charles both ended up in Wootton, Oxfordshire and married there. Charles then moved to Glympton in Oxon.
That leaves me with what happened to William senior and daughter Lucy. Familysearch gives Lucy's name on her baptism (6th Aug 1817) as Lucy Chebble Johnson. The Oxfordshire parish record disk I have puts a question mark at the end of Lucy and the middle name as Chelsea. Without being able to see the original record, my guess is that Chebble is more accurate but I guess the original was a poor quality.
I did feel that I would probably not discover who Lucy (if that was her name) was and what happened to her but yesterday I noticed on Ancestry that I was having a family tree hint thrown at me for her so I looked at it. The person had put a marriage in London for her on the 7th July 1850 at St George in the East, Tower Hamlets to Thomas Talbot Hale. This Lucy was a widow named Lucy Kebbard with a father called William Johnson but his occupation was a Green Grocer. I wasn't feeling that this was my Lucy but when I looked at the 1851 census for this couple, Lucy's birth place was given as Charlbury, Oxon and her age was 33 which would tie in perfectly for a baptism in 1817.
How likely could it be possible for a leather dresser to change occupation to a green grocer?
I found Lucy Johnson's first marriage to John Keapert at Whitechapel St Mary on the 11th October 1840. Again, father named as William Johnson, Greengrocer. The two witnesses were a William Johnson & Eleanor Johnson.
I've found Lucy & John on the 41 census in Whitechapel living with a William & Eleanor Webster :rolleyes: It clearly is Webster on the image but now I am wondering if this William & Eleanor were the same ones who witnesses the marriage and gave their surname as Johnson. William Webster's occupation is Green grocer.
So now I am wondering how likely this Lucy (and William) are my missing great x 5 grandfather and his daughter.
I've found Lucy Hale on the 61 census living at 3 Essex Place in Stepney, still with Thomas. Her birth place on this census says Glympton, Oxon. Glympton was where her brother Charles was living at this time. Its not that far from Charlbury but its more near Wootton that it is near Charlbury. Not yet found her on the 71 census, but again in 1881 where her birth place just says Oxfordshire. I think i've found her on the 91 census where her birth place says Salisbury, Oxfordshire. Now I know that Salisbury is not in Oxfordshire and wonder if its an error that should have said Charlbury.
What do you all think? Clutching at straws or maybe on to something with this lady?
After this, William (my great x 4 grandfather) and his brother Charles both ended up in Wootton, Oxfordshire and married there. Charles then moved to Glympton in Oxon.
That leaves me with what happened to William senior and daughter Lucy. Familysearch gives Lucy's name on her baptism (6th Aug 1817) as Lucy Chebble Johnson. The Oxfordshire parish record disk I have puts a question mark at the end of Lucy and the middle name as Chelsea. Without being able to see the original record, my guess is that Chebble is more accurate but I guess the original was a poor quality.
I did feel that I would probably not discover who Lucy (if that was her name) was and what happened to her but yesterday I noticed on Ancestry that I was having a family tree hint thrown at me for her so I looked at it. The person had put a marriage in London for her on the 7th July 1850 at St George in the East, Tower Hamlets to Thomas Talbot Hale. This Lucy was a widow named Lucy Kebbard with a father called William Johnson but his occupation was a Green Grocer. I wasn't feeling that this was my Lucy but when I looked at the 1851 census for this couple, Lucy's birth place was given as Charlbury, Oxon and her age was 33 which would tie in perfectly for a baptism in 1817.
How likely could it be possible for a leather dresser to change occupation to a green grocer?
I found Lucy Johnson's first marriage to John Keapert at Whitechapel St Mary on the 11th October 1840. Again, father named as William Johnson, Greengrocer. The two witnesses were a William Johnson & Eleanor Johnson.
I've found Lucy & John on the 41 census in Whitechapel living with a William & Eleanor Webster :rolleyes: It clearly is Webster on the image but now I am wondering if this William & Eleanor were the same ones who witnesses the marriage and gave their surname as Johnson. William Webster's occupation is Green grocer.
So now I am wondering how likely this Lucy (and William) are my missing great x 5 grandfather and his daughter.
I've found Lucy Hale on the 61 census living at 3 Essex Place in Stepney, still with Thomas. Her birth place on this census says Glympton, Oxon. Glympton was where her brother Charles was living at this time. Its not that far from Charlbury but its more near Wootton that it is near Charlbury. Not yet found her on the 71 census, but again in 1881 where her birth place just says Oxfordshire. I think i've found her on the 91 census where her birth place says Salisbury, Oxfordshire. Now I know that Salisbury is not in Oxfordshire and wonder if its an error that should have said Charlbury.
What do you all think? Clutching at straws or maybe on to something with this lady?