An Innkeeper in 1861

[BlueSavannah]

Hi,

My great x 3 grandfather James King was an Inn Keeper in 1861 and 1862 according to the census and his 2nd marriage. He was also a blacksmith. Would he have had to have been registered as a Victualler to be an Inn Keeper and if so, are there records that may list him?

He was living at Parkgate, Almondbury, West Yorkshire on the 61 census. He was 41 and with wife Ann. His birth place is Ecclesfield, South Yorkshire.

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Regular Alehouse Recognizances survive for the village where I live, recording the name of the licensee of the village pub. These are deposited at the relevant county record office and can be tracked through the online catalogue.

Jay

[BlueSavannah]

Many thanks Jay for that info :)

[anne fraser]

I find local papers often list license applications for inns. I have also found some of my farmers applying for shotgun licenses,

[Nell]

Have a google - I've found old pubsites for various counties that give the names of innkeepers and dates.

[ElizabethHerts]

I have also found records of licences granted in the newspaper "The Era".

[BlueSavannah]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I've googled and googled but found nothing. I've done searches on FMP newspapers and also nothing. I don't even know which pub he was an inn keeper at. The 61 census didn't give the pub's name, just that the abode was Park Gate which was in Almondbury (near Armitage Bridge).

[Nell]

Sorry

I've had a rootle around cyberspace but can't find anything of use.

[BlueSavannah]

Thank you for having a look Nell, much appreciated :)

[Kit]

If there are any trade directories for the area he lived in he may be listed in there.

[Shona]

On the 1851 census, James is a blacksmith at Park Gate.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/YRKHO107_2294_2294-0083/10644207?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1851%26rank%3d 1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3dking%26gsl n_x%3dNN%26gskw%3dalmondbury%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3 d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy%26cp%3d11%26pca t%3d35%26fh%3d0%26h%3d10644207%26recoff%3d5%2b6%26 ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

He is recorded at the Golden Fleece in Almondbury in White's Gazetteer of 1853. In the same directory, he is also listed as a blacksmith.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7051/Leeds-1853-0646/646?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fc gi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dleeds-1853%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d37%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26M SAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3dking%26gsl n_x%3dNN%26gskw%3dalmondbury%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3 d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy%26cp%3d11&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=535,142,831,177;170,213,488,246;1100,1596,1203, 1629;1213,1594,1296,1634;1025,1838,1078,1871;196,1 864,366,1902;290,2415,344,2449;809,2200,890,2242

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7051/Leeds-1853-0647/647?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fc gi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dleeds-1853%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d37%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26M SAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3dking%26gsl n_x%3dNN%26gskw%3dalmondbury%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3 d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy%26cp%3d11&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=814,120,1112,154;520,283,603,324;618,283,719,31 6;955,1681,1062,1716;1299,2258,1406,2292

The '15' reference before each entry indicates that he was at Park Gate.

Found this charming article on an elderly lady's memories of the Golden Fleece, Almondbury.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/its-not-italy-its-berry-7162938

[BlueSavannah]

Thank you so much Shona for those entries from 1853. I didn't know they were on Ancestry. I had tried searching Ancestry originally and it came up with nothing when I did :(

Lovely article and great to know the Golden Fleece still exists. Next time I am visiting family in Sheffield, I might have to convince the hubby to take a detour via Berry Brow & Armitage Bridge (where James is buried) and pay a visit to these places.

I wonder if he was always at the Golden Fleece or any other pubs but its so lovely to finally know a pub that he was at :)

Thank you again.

[Nell]

So pleased for you Claire! Well done Shona!

[Shona]

He was at the Golden Fleece in 1857, too (from the 1857 Post Office directory).

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1547/GB9083P-00069/937300?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dukcitydirectories%26so%3d2%26 pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3 d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3dking%26gsln_x%3dNN%26gskw %3dalmondbury%26gskw_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26catBucket% 3drstp%26uidh%3dfpy%26cp%3d11&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=1026,190,1102,210;1505,201,1582,222;1546,404,16 23,427;997,419,1073,441;1500,481,1576,502;383,769, 535,795;1314,655,1709,682;1336,859,1411,882;1614,1 065,1699,1088;1424,1199,1580,1225

[BlueSavannah]

That's wonderful Shona :)

It is likely that he did stay there until his death in 1867. I really must visit this place knowing its still there.

[Shona]

That's wonderful Shona :)

It is likely that he did stay there until his death in 1867. I really must visit this place knowing its still there.

Here's the pub's website:

http://goldenfleeceberrybrow.co.uk/

I'd be tempted to hit that Contact button! :D

[BlueSavannah]

I've been very tempted Shona and have hit that contact button :D

Fingers crossed for a response.