How can you lose someone called Thursa Eliza Rayner Barnes?

[Nell]

Thursa Eliza Rayner Barnes birth registered Jul 1859 - West Ham, Essex.

She appears with her parents William Barnes & Mary Barnes (nee Rayner) in 1851 at 8 Bidder Street, West Ham. Also in the family are her siblings Walter 17 b Holt; Arthur 9 b. Holt and Britannia aged 4 born Canning Town.

Then nothing. She just vanishes. All sightings will be gratefully received!

[kiterunner]

Wow, the 1891 census entry is making me seasick! (The ancestry copy)

[kiterunner]

This is the Wicks family plus Mary in 1881, Nell, not sure if you already have this?

1881 census (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7572/ESSRG11_1715_1718-0030/4783886?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26db%3duk i1881%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26msT%3d1%26 gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3dmary%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3d%2b%26gsln_ x%3dXO%26msbdy%3d1826%26msbdy_x%3d1%26gskw%3dglan* f*d%26gskw_x%3d1%26dbOnly%3d_F00027B9%257c_F00027B 9_x%252c_F0003039%257c_F0003039_x%252c_F000303A%25 7c_F000303A_x%252c_83004006%257c_83004006_x%252c_F 00032DB%257c_F00032DB_x%26uidh%3dvm5%26msbdp%3d5%2 6pcat%3d35%26fh%3d20%26h%3d4783886%26recoff%3d%26f sk%3dBEFTMzMIgAAdlAEbaZ8-61-%26bsk%3d%26pgoff%3d%26ml_rpos%3d21&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord)

Mary's surname is Searl on this one.

3 Emily St, West Ham
John F Wicks Head Mar 27 Gas Labr Norfolk Tottenhill(?)
Britannia " Wife M 24 Essex Canning Town
Samson " Son 3 Do
Rick(?) " " 1 Do
Mary Searl Mother in Law Widow 56 Norfolk Glanford

[kiterunner]

The marriage is Oct-Dec 1874 West Ham, Brittania Barnes / Francis Wicks. (From FreeBMD)

[Nell]

I'd just found the 1881 census before you posted, KR, but thanks or the wedding. I couldn't see it on Ancestry. I keep forgetting about FreeBMD.

I'm puzzled about Mary Searl - she must have remarried after William Barnes' death. This family are going to be a headache. The census is AWFUL, terrible handwriting!

Thanks as ever for your help.

[kiterunner]

And this is Mary and Britannia in 1871 (surname Searle) but no Thirza:

1871 census (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/ESSRG10_1627_1629-0408/8133145?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26db%3duk i1871%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26msT%3d1%26 gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3dbrit*%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln_x%3dXO%26msb dy%3d1857%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msmng0%3dmary%26msmng0_x %3d1%26dbOnly%3d_F0003888%257c_F0003888_x%252c_F00 027B9%257c_F00027B9_x%252c_F0003039%257c_F0003039_ x%252c_F000303A%257c_F000303A_x%252c_F00032DB%257c _F00032DB_x%252c_83004006%257c_83004006_x%252c_F00 0303D%257c_F000303D_x%252c_F00032F2%257c_F00032F2_ x%252c_F00032F6%257c_F00032F6_x%26uidh%3dvm5%26msb dp%3d5%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d9%26h%3d8133145%26recoff %3d%26ml_rpos%3d10&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord)

Mary is wife to a John Searle born Hertford.

[Nell]

There's an amendment to Britannia (Br Tanner) which gives info. Curiously, Mary Searle appears in 1891 and 1901 with her widowed son-in-law John and is recorded as Mary Barnes.

[Nell]

Got Thirza's death 1862.

[Phoenix]

Our trees will meet up sooner or later, Nell, though not with this branch. I have Rayners born in Glandford, (there have always been Rayners in the area, m'boy - said Basil Couzens Hardy to one of Mum's cousins) but we were incomers and those Rayners were "the other" Rayners.

Britannia is a good Norfolk name.

[Nell]

OOOhhh!

Oddly enough, I have 2 other "cousins" through genealogy and they are also in my Norfolk branch.

This is the only Britannia I've come across. Her grandfather, Mark Barnes of Langham, is my 3 x gt grandfather.