Help with 1881 and 1891 census

[Margaret in Burton]

I have William Fearn in 1871

RG10; Piece: 2900; Folio: 19; Page: 29


He is aged 23 born Gresley, Derbyshire
wife Mary age 30 born Chesterfield
John W aged 3 born Gresley
Mary Ann aged 1 born Gresley

He then turns up in 1901 as a widower and an invalid and living with his mother at 47 Coppice Side, Church Gresley, Derbyshire RG13; Piece: 2638; Folio: 11; Page: 14


Any references to Swadlincote could be them as it's near enough the same place.

I can't see him or the family in 1881 and 1891

[Mary from Italy]

I think this is the family in 1881, listed as Hearne:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7572/DBYRG11_2755_2759-0626/2553698?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fMS_AdvCB%3d1%26db%3duki1881%26rank %3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3dwil*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy% 3d1848%26msbdy_x%3d1%26gskw%3dgres*%26gskw_x%3d1%2 6dbOnly%3d_F00027B9%257c_F00027B9_x%252c_F0003039% 257c_F0003039_x%252c_F000303A%257c_F000303A_x%252c _83004006%257c_83004006_x%252c_F00032DB%257c_F0003 2DB_x%26uidh%3dyc2%26msbdp%3d5%26gl%3d%26gst%3d%26 hc%3d20%26fh%3d100%26fsk%3dBEFTMzMIgAAdlACa7-43-I-61-&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[Shona]

This may be them in 1891.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/DBYRG12_2200_2201-0220/3510774?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1891%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d3 510774&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

EDIT: Seems we have both gone for the same family, Mary.

[Mary from Italy]

Well done, I hadn't found them in 1891 yet. I think the enumerator's accidentally switched William and Mary's birthplaces in 1891.

[Mary from Italy]

I think this may be Mary's death; she seems to have knocked off a few years in 1891:

Deaths Jun 1894
FEARN Mary 52 Burton 6b 201

[Margaret in Burton]

Thank you both.

I now have a horrible feeling I'm researching the wrong family.

I need them to have a son John W born in 1868. I have found a burial

http://www.southderbyshirebdm.co.uk/personaldetails.asp?id=26441



This marriage is correct as I have the son's birth cert

http://www.southderbyshirebdm.co.uk/marriagedetails.asp?Id=7166


The couple you both found have a son John in 1891 aged 10

[Margaret in Burton]

I think this is the one I should have

RG10; Piece: 2901; Folio: 56; Page: 14


Because in 1891 his father is a brewers labourer like on the marriage

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/DBYRG12_2198_2199-0270/4429177?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1891%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dUKI CEN%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2 %26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dfe*rn%26 gsln_x%3dXO%26msbdy%3d1844%26msbdy_x%3d1%26gskw%3d derbyshire%26gskw_x%3d1%26uidh%3dp77%26msbdp%3d2&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults


I apologise for wasting peoples time.

[kiterunner]

This is that family in 1881, Marg, but they don't have a John with them. They do have a Mary age 11, which fits with the 1871, but her birthplace says Staffs Orgreave.
1881 census ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7572/DBYRG11_2755_2759-1175/2564494?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fMS_AdvCB%3d1%26db%3duki1881%26rank %3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d2%26msT%3d1%26gss %3dms_db%26gsfn%3dann*%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dfe*r n%26gsln_x%3dXO%26msbdy%3d1875%26msbdy_x%3d1%26gsk w%3dderb*%26gskw_x%3d1%26dbOnly%3d_F00027B9%257c_F 00027B9_x%26dbOnly%3d_F0003039%257c_F0003039_x%26d bOnly%3d_F000303A%257c_F000303A_x%26dbOnly%3d_8300 4006%257c_83004006_x%26dbOnly%3d_F00032DB%257c_F00 032DB_x%26uidh%3dvm5%26msbdp%3d2&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)

Edit - ah, looking at the link you posted to the burial, they aren't supposed to have a John with them in 1881, is that right?

[Margaret in Burton]

I've found the correct John in 1881. The family who had the burial at aged 6 are the wrong family.


RG 11 piece 2758 folio 135 page 21

[kiterunner]

Sorry, Marg, I must have got the wrong end of the stick as to who we were looking for.

[Margaret in Burton]

Sorry, Marg, I must have got the wrong end of the stick as to who we were looking for.

No more confused than me, this family like secrets.