Arabella Davies Law - Australia help please

[kiterunner]

This is on a side-branch of my tree - Arabella Davi(e)s Law born 15 Sep 1837 Southwark, Surrey, baptised 6 Oct 1837 St George the Martyr, Southwark, parents William and Charlotte. In 1841 the family are all in the workhouse, Charlotte separate from the rest of them:
1841 census (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&h=10220707&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t19209336_p770726730_kpidz0q3d770726730z0q 26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid)

Arabella is listed as Isabella on this census. (She was named after her great-grandmother who was never sure whether her name was Arabella or Isabella.)

Here is the rest of the family in 1851 but no Arabella / Isabella and I haven't managed to find her elsewhere:
1851 census (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/SRYHO107_1562_1563-0340/708569?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26rank%3d0%26gsfn%3dchar lott%26gsln%3dlaw%26sx%3d%26f1%3d%26f2%3d%26f4%3d% 26f18__n%3d%26f12__n%3d%26rg_81004011__date%3d%26r s_81004011__date%3d5%26f27%3d%26f14%3d%26f15%3d%26 _8000C002%3d%26_80008002%3d%26_80018002%3d%26f7%3d %26f8%3d%26f9%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26db%3duki18 51%26ti%3d5538%26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d0%26h%3d708569%26recoff%3d5%2 b6%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord)
Now I have just found that she appears on some public ancestry trees marrying a Henry Barnett in Victoria, Australia in 1863 and dying in 1876 in Adelaide. She doesn't have a middle name on either the marriage or death index, just Arabella, but apparently she and Henry gave one of their children the middle name Bristow, which would fit with my Arabella.

Can anyone find anything to prove / disprove that Arabella Barnett is my Arabella, please? (It's only a distant twig of my tree so I'm not planning to pay for certificates.)

[Mary from Italy]

Unfortunately there's hardly anything online for South Australia, but I've found what appears to be the missing link; there's a death in Queensland in 1944 for a Francis Law, son of Henry and Elizabeth Arabella Barnett:

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths

And one of the various Ancestry trees has the birth of a Francis Law Barnett to Henry and Arabella in NSW in 1872. I haven't been able to find it on the NSW birth index, but they give an exact date and place of birth (3/1/1872 in Wentworth), so maybe they have a cert.

They also have a wife for Francis, but I haven't found a marriage yet.

I did check the Victoria BMD index, but it doesn't appear to give Arabella's middle name or parents' names:

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

and I haven't found anything on Trove so far:

http://trove.nla.gov.au

[Mary from Italy]

I see Henry and Arabella had a son Ronald F Barnet in Wentworth in 1872, which casts a certain amount of doubt on the birth date given in the tree for Francis.

[Mary from Italy]

Hmm. Francis is buried in Brisbane under the name of Francis Law:

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/community-support/funeral-planning-and-grave-search/grave-location-search/index.htm

and married Elizabeth Mauch (the name of the wife given in the Ancestry trees) in Queensland in 1923, also under the name of Francis Law.

So either the people with the Ancestry trees have got entirely the wrong person, being misled by his mother's name of Elizabeth Arabella Barnett in the death index, or Francis dropped his surname for some reason before he got married.

Arabella Barnett isn't a particularly common name, so I'd be inclined to think it's the same Francis, but I'm not sure you can go much further without certs.

[kiterunner]

Thanks for looking, Mary. I guess Ronald F and Francis could be the same person? Maybe the F is short for Francis?

Also the Australian Birth Index on ancestry has a James Barnett born 1866 Swan Hill, Victoria, parents Henry Barnett and Arabelle Law, but he doesn't seem to be on those public trees.

[Mary from Italy]

The 1944 burial record gives his age as 72, which would tie in with a birth around 1872.

He's buried in the Anzac section of the cemetery, so I looked for a service record, and found his WW1 record. The next of kin's hard to read on the attestation page, but it looks like Wolfinden and the name of a boarding house in NSW, and on p. 6, the letter about the DCM awarded to Francis is sent to Mr A Wolfinden, Union Hotel, Barcaldine, Qld.

There are some Wolfindens on the electoral roll, mostly in Qld, but I can't see a man with the initial A.

[Mary from Italy]

Found Francis now on the WW1 embarkation roll; his nok is given as Albert Wolfenden, friend, with a Qld address.

https://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/?preferred_name=francis+law&service_number=&unit=&conflict=0&op=Search

[marquette]

Henry and Arabella Barnett also had three others in Wenworth NSW

6244/1869 BARNETT HERBERT W HENRY ARABELLA WENTWORTH
5010/1864 BARNETT THOMAS H HENRY ARABELLA WENTWORTH
21127/1874 BARNETT OLIVER BRISTOW HENRY ARABELLA WENTWORTH
19236/1872 BARNET RONALD F HENRY ARABELLA WENTWORTH

Wentworth is at the junction of the Darling and Murray Rivers in far western NSW - at that time it was an important River Port. However, people there had far more contact with Adelaide and Melbourne than with Sydney.

It would appear that Henry and Arabella married in Victoria in 1863-64.

Oliver B Barnett married Mary E F Gainer in Broken Hill NSW in 1905. - They had two children Henry C in 1906 and Pearl E in 1908 in Broken Hill.

My ancestry sub has run out, but you might be able to pick up Thomas, Herbert or Oliver in the electoral rolls. I could not see them in the NSW Deaths Index or the Ryerson Index.

Di

[tenterfieldjulie]

I think Wentworth was hit pretty in the Depression of the 1890s and many people left the district.

[JBee]

Could have a search on here.

Have emailed them and got reply to say they're live and have passed my request for bil ancestors on to the research team but they haven't got back to me yet.

http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2012/02/south-australian-bdm-indexes-now-online/

[Mary from Italy]

That's very useful, thanks.

The online database is here:

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

It doesn't give Arabella's parents' names, though.

[Mary from Italy]

My ancestry sub has run out, but you might be able to pick up Thomas, Herbert or Oliver in the electoral rolls. I could not see them in the NSW Deaths Index or the Ryerson Index.


Oliver died in 1943 in SA, which doesn't have electoral rolls online. Haven't checked the other two yet.

[tenterfieldjulie]

Thanks Julie for the link.

[kiterunner]

Thanks for all the info, everyone. I had looked on the SA BMD website earlier but as Mary said, it doesn't give the names of Arabella's parents. The research service looks to cost at least $14 Aus and as I said, it's only a side branch so I wasn't planning to spend much money. Will pencil the family in with a note to say it still needs proof!

[marquette]

Oliver died in 1943 in SA, which doesn't have electoral rolls online. Haven't checked the other two yet.

Typical of SA to be behind every other state. Glad none of my lot lived there !

[HarrysMum]

I am on my iPad and have grandies all over the house.....when they go home, I will drag out my Mauch tree and see if anything pops up. Hubby is related to all the Mauchs in Quensland I think.

[HarrysMum]

Had a look and hubby's book doesn't have any Elizabeth Mauch. They will be related though I am sure.

[kiterunner]

Thanks, Libby.

[Kit]

LDS centres may have SA BMD available. They do here in Australia. The advantage is that they give dates not just years for SA. OH's great grandparents eloped to SA and I got all the details without buying a cert.

[jacqls]

Ive just found this thread. Francis Law was my mother's Father. They ran the postoffice in Tannymorel. Queensland. He was a very fine man. He was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal in WW1 for single handedly fighting off some 30 germans. (I have these medals). He struggled in later years due to shrapnel wounds. He changed his name from Barnett to Law. Mum never knew exactly why but suspected could have been to enlist.. Thanks for the info on Arabella we didn't know much about her and can now follow up.. Regards Jacqui Law-Smith

[kiterunner]

Welcome to the forum, Jacqui, and glad to hear this thread helped you. Do you have a copy of Arabella and Henry's marriage record? Or of Arabella's death record?
You and I must be something like fourth cousins once removed.

[HarrysMum]

Ive just found this thread. Francis Law was my mother's Father. They ran the postoffice in Tannymorel. Queensland. He was a very fine man. He was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal in WW1 for single handedly fighting off some 30 germans. (I have these medals). He struggled in later years due to shrapnel wounds. He changed his name from Barnett to Law. Mum never knew exactly why but suspected could have been to enlist.. Thanks for the info on Arabella we didn't know much about her and can now follow up.. Regards Jacqui Law-Smith

Welcome . The Mauch family are all from around Tannymorel. Hubby was born in Killarney and quite a few are buried there as well as Yangan.