The challenge this time is a George Hay

[Glen TK]

Census returns are a bit thin on the ground for this chap, born in Berwick on Tweed c1845 and until a recent thread I hadn't got a clue he went to Canada, post 1870 I'm totally clueless about him.

1851

Civil parish: Berwick upon Tweed
Town: Berwick Upon Tweed
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Hide Hill

Occupation Coastguard Service

Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Islandshire
Household schedule number: 72

Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hay 40
Ann Hay 2
George Hay 42
George Hay 5
Josph Hay 4
Lucy Hay 7

1870 Canada Census
Stamford, Ontario
Ellis George 47
Elizabeth 47
George P 17 born U States
Joseph 15 born Ontario
William 13 born Ontario
Amy 13 born Ontario
Elizabeth 11 born Ontario
Fanny 7 born Ontario
Anne 3 born Ontario
Hay George 23 born England
Ellis Charles 17 born Ontario

[kiterunner]

Are George and Ann his parents, Glen?

[Glen TK]

Yeah, George Hay coastguard and Ann Goulson. Ann died in Berwick 1857

1861 for dad George;

1861 England Census Record about George Kay (mistranscribed as George Kay in the index,the image is correct)
Name: George Kay
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouses name:Jane W
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Burnham Overy
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Chief Officer Coastguard

Source information: RG9/1248
Registration district: Docking
Sub-registration district: Burnham
Folio: 102
Page: 8
Household schedule number: 46

Household Members: Name Age
Alexander M Kay 1
Ann Kay 12
George Kay 50
Jane W Kay 37
Joseph Kay 14
Lucy Kay 17
William W Kay

[kiterunner]

There are a few possibles in Canada with ages not quite right, but not enough information to know which is him.

[Glen TK]

I hate Canada, got a few that went over there and had no luck with any of them!! Grrr

[Shona]

In 1841, his father was in Lowestoft.

George Hay, 37, coast guard
Ann Hay, 30
Elizabeth Goulson, 15

None of them were born in county.

Most of the coast guards that I've researched served in the Royal Navy prior to their service with the coast guard.

[Glen TK]

The Elizabeth in the '41 is the Elizabeth aged 47 in the 1870 Canada return, George jnr is the one I have lost track of and until my recent thread killing of Elizabeth I had no idea he went overseas.

The only child mentioned in his father's will (1880) is the youngest daughter who came along in the 1860's. The ADM records have quite a bit of info which Phoenix found long ago and detail his father's days as a mariner and appointment to the Coastguard Service.

[Shona]

This might be him in 1881.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1577/31229_C_13243-00555/944820?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1881Canada%26indiv%3dtry%26h% 3d944820&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Bracebridge and McCaulay, Ontario

George Hay, 31
Catharein Hay, 28
Caroline Gardiner, 51

I reckon it is him because, although he says that he was born in England, he gives his ethnic origin as 'Scotch'. In the previous Canadian census, his ethnicity is recorded as 'Scottish'.

George Hay was a sailor in the 1871 Canadian census, yet the one in the link is a farmer. Could have left the navy/merchant marine, though.

EDIT - That isn't him. Found the marriage between George and Catherine Gardiner and it's the wrong parents for George and wrong birthplace.

I'm thinking that as George was a sailor, he may be at sea.

[Glen TK]

Mmm, well dad and a brother were both sailors and as he was born at Berwick the options were either farming, sailor, ship builder and working in the chemical factory.