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Phoenix
12-10-13, 19:42
Edward was bp 11 November 1821 in Hambledon, Hants

Elizabeth was bp 9 June 1824 in Petersfield, Hants but the family was already of Whitechapel Row in London.

Robert was born in St Pancras c 1828.

Can anyone see what happened to Edward and Elizabeth? Or even what happened to Lucy? I though she died before 1861, but I can't spot her death.

I assume they all remained in London.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 19:51
I'm not sure where it gets me, but a Charles King Eley, son of John Edward Eley is born 1861.

An Elizabeth Eley has a possible spouse of Charles King. Off to find John in 1841.

Merry
12-10-13, 19:53
They are all together in 1841 so everyone should be on civil registration records. There's a possible for Edward jr dying in 1870, but at first glance that man was born in London (1851 census), so more checking needed!

Merry
12-10-13, 19:58
Elizabeth Eley dau of Edward, house decorator, married 27th Feb 1851 to Stephen Raggett, ginger beer maker, son of Stephen Raggett, farmer, at St John's Clerkenwell. Witnesses George and Sarah Cooper.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:02
Ooh! But in which case, where is she in 1851?

Merry
12-10-13, 21:08
Stephen Raggett head m 39 coal dealer and ginger beer maker b Herts Redbourn
Elizabeth Raggett wife m 27 b Hants, Southampton

Living at 64 Collier St, Clerkenwell

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:17
Baggett!

Thank you, Merry.

Merry
12-10-13, 21:20
Have you got Edward sr, Lucy and Robert together in 1851?

Merry
12-10-13, 21:25
This looks most likely to be Edward sr's death:


Name: Edward Eley
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1851
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1
Page: 311

Merry
12-10-13, 21:30
Robert seems to have married Ellen Matthews in 1852, but he has a middle name, Thomas. Did he have that before?

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:30
Sorry. just hunting down a Raggee (Why are unusual names just as difficult?)

Yes, I'd found the family in 1851 and agree that death is probably the correct one.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:32
Lucy's father was a Thomas, so that would be feasible. I've never found a baptism for him, so he may well always have had a middle name.

Merry
12-10-13, 21:35
Oh, that must be right, because a witness is S Raggett!

Nov 21st 1852 St Pancras Chapel, painter, son of Edward dec'd. Elllen dau of Thomas Matthews dec'd. Other witness Anne Julia Gapp (or Goss or similar), her mark.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:44
That is one impressive wedding: disposes of father and introduces bil!

Merry
12-10-13, 21:44
This ought to be the elder son, but he's not wanting to be found on the census:


Name: Edward Eley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1870
Age at Death: 48
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 93

Phoenix
12-10-13, 21:45
And I've killed Elizabeth off, because Stephen has a younger model in 1871.

Merry
12-10-13, 21:56
This is probably him:

Name: Edward Eley
Spouse's Name: Caroline Baker
Event Date: 15 May 1842
Event Place: Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London

as there's an Edward and Caroline with a load of children on the 1861. He says b 1820 Hampshire and is an engineer. Living at 216 City Road, St Luke's.

Merry
12-10-13, 22:06
This ought to be the elder son, but he's not wanting to be found on the census:


Name: Edward Eley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1870
Age at Death: 48
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 93

Hmmmmm Edward (Caroline's OH) is still alive in 1871!!

Merry
12-10-13, 22:09
Maybe this is him?

Name: Edward Eley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1880
Age at Death: 60
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 255

Caroline is a widow in 1881.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 22:25
Elers!

Thank you, Merry. No way would I have found them by myself.

Merry
12-10-13, 22:32
lol Phoenix! Which site are you using? I didn't find anything that wasn't spelled correctly!

Merry
12-10-13, 22:34
what happened to Lucy? I though she died before 1861, but I can't spot her death.


There are a few possibles spelled Ely and Eely.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 23:15
Quite possibly her:

Deaths Sep 1853 (>99%)
Ely Lucy St Luke 1b 332

FMP is letting me down this evening.

Phoenix
12-10-13, 23:19
But, the mistranscriptions I put in last week have already been adjusted, so full marks for speed.