Oakes in Garston from 1871 - but who is this ?

[garstonite]

Good morning - looking for an address of this lady in 1861 census in Garston ??
Margaret Oakes marries Joseph Appleton 1870 at St Austins, Grassendale
Grassendale / was part of Gartson then...
my gg grandfather came to Garston in 1871 or a little earlier - he is in Argyle Road,Garston in 1871 census...to my knowledge he was the first Oakes in Garston
but that 1870 marriage of Margaret Oakes now makes it look like he WASN`T ??
can someone advise how I can find the father of Margaret Oakes at that marriage ?...I will look on familysearch.org now - but I am not optimistic ...
thanks

ADDED Joseph Appleton buried 9th april 1927 in Garston ,Liverpool aged 83

[garstonite]

OK thankyou - luckily 1881 census has Margarets father with her in 1881 census in Gerrards Cottages,Garston ...his name was Henry Oakes .......
this can now be closed as complete - thankyou
allan

[Shona]

Well done, Allan.

While searching, found these Oakes, which might be of interest to you.

1841

Garston
Sarah Oakes, 35, not b in county

1851

Much Woolton, Lancs
Ellen Holmes, head, unmarried, 45, householder, b Manchester
Mary Oakes, sister, widow, 47, b Garston

Gerards Cott, Garston
James Oakes, head, 35, shoemaker, b Pickmere, Cheshire
Mary Ann Oakes, wife, 40, publican, b Cronton, Lancs

Lee Green, Church Minshull, Cheshire
John Oakes, head, 24, ag lab, b Church Minshull
Mary Oakes, wife, 20, b Garston
Sarah Ann, dau, ?, b Church Minshull

1861

St Mary's Row, Garston
John Oakes, head, 38, matchmaker, b Oldham, Lancs
Louisa Oakes, wife, 34, b Manchester

There are other Oakes in Liverpool in 1841, 1851 and 1861, too.

[garstonite]

Well done, Allan.

While searching, found these Oakes, which might be of interest to you.

1841

Garston
Sarah Oakes, 35, not b in county

1851

Much Woolton, Lancs
Ellen Holmes, head, unmarried, 45, householder, b Manchester
Mary Oakes, sister, widow, 47, b Garston

Gerards Cott, Garston
James Oakes, head, 35, shoemaker, b Pickmere, Cheshire
Mary Ann Oakes, wife, 40, publican, b Cronton, Lancs

Lee Green, Church Minshull, Cheshire
John Oakes, head, 24, ag lab, b Church Minshull
Mary Oakes, wife, 20, b Garston
Sarah Ann, dau, ?, b Church Minshull

1861

St Mary's Row, Garston
John Oakes, head, 38, matchmaker, b Oldham, Lancs
Louisa Oakes, wife, 34, b Manchester

There are other Oakes in Liverpool in 1841, 1851 and 1861, too.

Thanks Shona - that is very very interesting ...makes me think that my gg grandfather Daniel Oakes came to Garston BECAUSE there was family already here ...the James Oakes b Pickmere is almost certainly family ...I will have to check my tree ...also 1851 Mary Ann Oakes PUBLICAN ??...I HAVE TO FIND OUT WHICH PUB SHE RAN ...does it say by any chance ??

[Shona]

Have looked at the 1851 census again, Alan, but it doesn't give the name of the pub.

But, if you're after Oakes connections with pubs, in 1861, there is a Margaret Oakes, age 23, unmarried, who is a housemaid at the Sandown Hotel, High Street, Wavertree. She was born in Rainhill, Lancs. The publican there is William Thompson. If you Google, there are pics of the Sandown Hotel.

[garstonite]

Have looked at the 1851 census again, Alan, but it doesn't give the name of the pub.

But, if you're after Oakes connections with pubs, in 1861, there is a Margaret Oakes, age 23, unmarried, who is a housemaid at the Sandown Hotel, High Street, Wavertree. She was born in Rainhill, Lancs. The publican there is William Thompson. If you Google, there are pics of the Sandown Hotel.

Thanks Shona - I have been in The Sandown many times ...I have never made a connection with the Rainhill /Prescot, Oakes family - mine are from Middlewich /Over/ area .....then they moved to Backford, by Chester - then Neston,The Wirral then Garston
thanks for your posts Shona - they were very interesting and definitely food for thought
cheers
allan

[Shona]

No probs, Allan. I like the idea of you supping a pint or two where a poss ancestor used to work. I remember chuckling to myself when I discovered that a great-gran's brother worked in a pub I used to to visit regularly.