Second pair of eyes needed!

[ElizabethHerts]

I think this is the baptism of my 3x-great-grandmother, Betty Pollard.

It is 5th March 1795, parents Henry and Betty.

Could someone tell me what they think the abode is, please?

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2256/32355_248834-01179/10493756?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dwyorkpre1813%26so%3d2%26pcat% 3dEPR%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26 gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dPollard%26msbdy%3d1795%26 msbpn__ftp%3dYorkshire%252c%2bEngland%26msbpn%3d52 92%26msbpn_PInfo%3d7-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5292%257c0%257c0%257c%26msfng0%3dHenry%26msfns0 %3dPollard%26uidh%3dxt1%26msbdp%3d10&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[Langley Vale Sue]

It looks like ........Hippingland Solo Urb?
The entry underneath also has Urb? as the last word. Maybe Urban?

[Langley Vale Sue]

There is a Hipping Hall near Kirkby Lonsdale in North Yorkshire. Probably too far away though.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Sue. I suspect it might be "Sow" - abbreviation for Sowerby.

On the 1851 census Betty said she was born in Sowerby, in 1861 in Halifax, which was why I couldn't quite accept the baptism and parents, but if the register shows they lived in Sowerby I can claim her!

[ElizabethHerts]

This is a sister Mary in August 1786:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2256/32355_248834-00928/10475472?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

the same "Sow." again.

[ElizabethHerts]

Here is a reference to Hippings End:

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/b113_h.html

It's a wonderful website.

[Langley Vale Sue]

Yes, looking again it does say 'Sow' on both records.

I've been googling 'Hipping land' but couldn't find anything definite. It appears to have agricultural connections - 'land used for hipping'?, but I don't know what that means. Maybe 'Hippingland' is not a village or hamlet, but just an area like common land would be.

[Langley Vale Sue]

Ah thanks, that answers my question about 'Hipping'. :)

[Shona]

Hippingsend for the place.

[ElizabethHerts]

This is clearer:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2256/32355_248834-01131/10491924?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3dwyorkpre1813%26ra nk%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dPollard%26msbdy%3d1795%26 msbpn__ftp%3dYorkshire%252c%2bEngland%26msbpn%3d52 92%26msbpn_PInfo%3d7-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5292%257c0%257c0%257c%26msfng0%3dHenry%26msfns0 %3dPollard%26uidh%3dxt1%26msbdp%3d10%26pcat%3dEPR% 26fh%3d1%26h%3d10491924%26recoff%3d10%2b38%2b49%2b 50&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

The first baptism on the page, Henry Pollard. It definitely says "Hippings End Sow." there.

I think I have the correct family for her.

[Shona]

Could Sow be Sowerby Bridge?

[ElizabethHerts]

They had a William in 1800:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2256/32355_248834-01240/10495548?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3dwyorkpre1813%26ne w%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dPollard%26msbdy%3d1795%26 msbpn__ftp%3dYorkshire%252c%2bEngland%26msbpn%3d52 92%26msbpn_PInfo%3d7-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5292%257c0%257c0%257c%26msfng0%3dHenry%26msfns0 %3dPollard%26uidh%3dxt1%26msbdp%3d10%26rank%3d1%26 pcat%3d34%26fh%3d4%26h%3d10495548%26recoff%3d10%2b 38%2b49%2b50&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

It confirms Hippings End with Sowerby spelt out.
I now have an occupation for Henry Pollard - shopkeeper. :)

[Langley Vale Sue]

Yes, definitely "Hippings End Sow".

Well done for finding your GGG grandmother's baptism.

[ElizabethHerts]

Shona, much of this branch was Sowerby Bridge, but Sowerby is further west, and I have ancestors buried there. Sowerby is closer to Heptonstall.

We visited a few years ago and had a wonderful time looking at all the churches. Heptonstall is amazing, and my Jacksons seemed to travel up there to have their children christened.

[ElizabethHerts]

I've now worked out that the word that looked like "Urb" is in fact "Web", which means that Henry Pollard was a webster until the last child's birth.

[Shona]

I've now worked out that the word that looked like "Urb" is in fact "Web", which means that Henry Pollard was a webster until the last child's birth.

Well done. Webster makes sense as it was a big weaving area and there area lot of others in the registers with that abbreviation. I had wondered if it was an occupation, but I couldn't figure it out.

[ElizabethHerts]

I've now found the marriage between Henry Pollard and Betty Morely on FMP, in 1784 at Halifax.

There is also a Morley website and book, and I have registered with it and am awaiting access.

[Janet]

From Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion:

Hippings
Also Hippins. Used in place names – such as Hippings, Hippings End, Hippins Farm, and Hippins Stone - the word means stepping stones across a stream or river

EDIT: Ooops, have just seen you already had that, sorry, Elizabeth. I should have clicked all the links first!

[ElizabethHerts]

From Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion:

Hippings
Also Hippins. Used in place names – such as Hippings, Hippings End, Hippins Farm, and Hippins Stone - the word means stepping stones across a stream or river

This is a really good website, Janet, and I have used it many times to help with my local knowledge.

[Janet]

Me too, Elizabeth. I get lost in there, just browsing. :)

[ElizabethHerts]

Well, I'm on cloud nine. I now have access to the Morley website, and earlier today I was accessing lots of PRs on Ancestry for Heptonstall and area.

The Morley website is fantastic, and I feel privileged to have access to it.
It has the transcription of the headstone of Henry and Betty Pollard and so much more. Just wonderful.:D

[tenterfieldjulie]

Well done Liza, just thought I'd add that it is very easy to get lost in that area lol .. I became quite experienced at it .. in fact I was rather bemused when I used to find my way home .. shattered but pleased lol .. Julie

[ElizabethHerts]

I've been thinking of you, Julie, as I'm sure I'm coming across some of your ancestors in my travels through the PRs.

What are your surnames in that area?

[tenterfieldjulie]

Hi Liza, The name Pogson is on two lines, traced both (only through BDMs) to 1780s - one line associated with Ripponden, Marsden/Almondbury, & Scammonden. A death in 1780 gives her address as Darby, Ing, Rishworth (an area I kept getting lost and found -dipping in and out of steep valleys and ridges.) Other names are Garside associated with Elland; Stotts are from Lancs, as are Woodheads, but the wife is another Pogson and her line is Almondbury/Slaithwaite .. lots are Non-Coms. Julie

[ElizabethHerts]

Julie, I'll keep my eyes open for them. I still have trouble getting my head round the geography of the area, but I'm getting better!

This line of mine had the children baptised C of E but I wouldn't have found the burials easily because they wer Wesleyan Methodist.

When are you off to Perth?

[tenterfieldjulie]

Thanks Liza. Going to Perth on the 28th, flying from Bris, so will probably go up the night before. Not enough hours in day at the moment having been away so much .. We are having extremely mild weather .. garden going mad. Cheers. Julie (Looking forward to next year OS)

[ElizabethHerts]

Have a safe trip, Julie. I'd love to go back to Perth. My cousin in Sawyer's Valley has become a grandfather for the third time, so more twigs on the tree!
So looking forward to next year!