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anne fraser
30-07-13, 22:46
I have my great great grandfatherJoseph Wilton's will from 1884. He divides his money between his children but describes his son Joseph as missing and instructs that if he can not be found within ten years the money is to be divided amongst the other children. I always thought this was very sad.

However I have found an Australian tree on ancestry with a Joseph Wilton on it and hope it is my man. I know his older brother Moses emigrated to Australia and I have been in touch with one of his descendents. I have Joseph Wilton born 1840 in Kelston Somerset parents Mary and Joseph. In 1851 he is with his parents and in 1861 he is possibly working in Bristol. I can't find him after that.

They have Joseph Wilton living in Ipswich Queensland. In 1865 he marries Margaret McDairmond and in 1928 he dies in Queensland. Can any one help me prove a connection?

tenterfieldjulie
30-07-13, 23:36
Anne the Qld BDM gives the dc no C2846 with father's name as Joseph Wilson (so obvious spelling mistake), mother's name appears to be not known, so in index space is written born England aged 88. It would appear that the informant doesn't know a lot.
Joseph's parents should be on his marriage registration. Does the tree say where he married? Julie
Found the marriage in Qld reg no C344. Unless other's have ideas, I think that you would need to purchase the certificate to be sure who he is. I had a look on Trove and I could see Wilton in 1865 - the carpet and also the Manager of the Opera/Theatre, a Mr GD Wilton. A few Wiltons were, on inspection of the newspapers, transcription errors and the name was Wilson. Sorry I can't help. Julie

Janet
31-07-13, 00:27
I found this "Founding Families of Ipswich Pre 1900: M-Z" on ipswich.qld.gov.au:

Ipswich Early Settlers (http://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/documents/heritage/early_settlers_m-z.pdf)

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/Wilton_zps5b413680.jpg

The center column is arrival date.

Janet
31-07-13, 00:41
This might be the tree you've already seen?

gdavis.id.au (http://gdavis.id.au/family/p00374.htm)

Mary from Italy
31-07-13, 01:10
Emigration details here:

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/ImmigrationIndexes/Documents/Assisted-Immigrants-1848-1912-W.pdf

Janet
31-07-13, 01:14
Queensland Times (Ipswich)
Monday 26 November 1928

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/Wiltonprobate_zps2c564f98.jpg

We still don't know if he's your man, of course. :d

Ooh, looks as if Mary might have just nailed it!

Mary from Italy
31-07-13, 01:39
You can download the marriage cert here; it may or may not contain the parents' names:

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/querySubmit.m?ReportName=MarriageSearch

Janet
31-07-13, 02:07
Anne, FYI: That BDM search has her as McDairmid Margaret.

Janet
31-07-13, 02:58
There is an obit for Mrs Margaret Wilton soon to be released on Trove:

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/MrsWiltondeath_zps8c53db18.jpg

Janet
31-07-13, 03:07
Ah, here's one they do have uploaded already.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) Saturday 23 October 1920

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/MargaretWiltonobit_zps0a43452d.jpg

Janet
31-07-13, 03:22
Queensland Times (Ipswich) (Qld. : 1909 - 1954) Thursday 28 July 1938

The son:
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/JosephWilton-son-obit_zpsa1d207a8.jpg

Brassall is next to Ipswich.

Janet
31-07-13, 03:34
Here's his own obit. I was hoping they would give his origins, but no. :(

I'll stop now and let you have some of the fun! I was searching on Trove with a name plus "Raceview" and finding a lot of materials.

Queensland Times (Ipswich) (Qld. : 1909 - 1954) Thursday 5 July 1928

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/JosephWiltonobit_zpse87d8a7f.jpg

HarrysMum
31-07-13, 04:05
Yell if there is anything I can search for you at Ipswich. It's only ten minutes up the road from me.

HarrysMum
31-07-13, 05:40
Just found one of the trees on Ancestry is owned by a very good friend of mine. I've sent a message and will ring her if she doesn't reply..

tenterfieldjulie
31-07-13, 06:38
A couple of points, even if parents names aren't on the marriage certificate, they will probably be held at the church. In those days often there wasn't a column in the state registration form, but the church entered into their register. Once you know the church you can find out. Lib if your friend doesn't have the details, if you approached the church with the names and date they might give you the details .. especially knowing your charm ah hem .. The other point .. Did he pay his own way or was he sponsored? .. If he was sponsored it should at least give his place of birth on a separate shipping manifest..

Merry
31-07-13, 07:51
I found this "Founding Families of Ipswich Pre 1900: M-Z" on ipswich.qld.gov.au:

Ipswich Early Settlers (http://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/documents/heritage/early_settlers_m-z.pdf)

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u533/pix4janet/Wilton_zps5b413680.jpg

The center column is arrival date.

As the man recorded here was born 15th Feb 1840 I would imagine it's highly likely to be your man who was registered the same quarter (his was the only reg in Q1 1840 and the only other Joseph Wilton registered that year (Q2) in England was still in here in 1871. Obviously there may well be more Joseph Wiltons who were not registered, or who were known by another name at birth so not 100% conclusive!

There are three other JWs on the 1841 census aged 1 who may not have been registered, none of whom appear to have father Joseph (assuming the head of house is their dad - I've not checked them all on the next census).

I looked to see if his baptism was on FreeREG in case his dob was given. No sign of him, but other baps around 1840 didn't have dob recorded :(

You could get his birth cert! :D

anne fraser
31-07-13, 11:07
Thanks everyone you have been busy. I won't be around today as I have to work. I have his mother's maiden name as Lewis but I have seen her signature and it could be almost any thing. If it was him it is a pity he did not write home. He would have inherited about £100.00 from his father. I have not been able to find his baptism. Libby it is a small world. My father was James Wilton and his brother was Joseph not that that proves any thing.

HarrysMum
09-08-13, 22:00
Anne........Kirsten has got back to me and said she will check out what she has in the next few days and let me know.

Just thought I'd update you.......I haven't forgotten.

anne fraser
11-08-13, 12:03
Thanks. I have been quite busy the last couple of weeks as one of my son's got married yesterday. I have a gut feeling they are the right family as Joseph, James, Henry and Eliza were all names of Joseph's brothers and sisters.