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Merry
13-11-09, 09:20
Link to this thread added to BK6 WMHM

I am researching someone my grandmother may have had a liason with! lol

I am trying to find out more about the wife this man was married to at the time. I want to trace her in 1901 or before that.

They married in 1908 and I think I've found the wife in 1911. I didn't have enough credit to get the actual page, so bought the transcript, to get her place of birth. This hasn't helped as the transcript says 'Headride'??!!! I don't know what it's supposed to say. Others on the page say London or Switzerland. Her OH isn't at home probably because he was in the army.

Other than that, her name before marriage was Nellie Holt (I think she was aka Helen) and the 1911 suggests she was born about 1884. I have been told her marriage cert has her father's name down as 'W J Holt' (but I don't know what occ was recorded) and he must have been living as he helped his dau pay for her divorce in later years.

In case it inspires you, here they are......:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/merry_monty_montgomery/Image1-1.jpg

My gran front left, Nellie front right, and Nellie's husband punting on The Thames near Twickenham, probably at the end of WW1.
Margaret in Burton
13-11-09, 09:23
Merry

I've sent you a pm
Merry
13-11-09, 09:30
Thanks Margaret :D
Merry
13-11-09, 09:57
By some miracle I seem to have come by the 1911 image :rolleyes::d

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/merry_monty_montgomery/LyonClark21911.jpg

I still can't work out that birthplace begining with H. The other people have all completed their own details (and all have better handwriting than Nellie), so there was not really any point in posting more of the image.
Kit
13-11-09, 10:29
The first part definitely looks like Head. Could it end "ly". I don't know enough about English geography to hazard a guess.
Phoenix
13-11-09, 10:33
surely 030 must be a clue? At least to the county?
Merry
13-11-09, 10:43
The first part definitely looks like Head. Could it end "ly".

I agree that's what it looks like.

Good idea Phoenix! So, where does 30 refer to??? I've just looked through the few 1911 census sheets I have, but none have 30 on them :(
Langley Vale Sue
13-11-09, 10:47
Could it be Headley? Either Hampshire or Surrey?


Try this one........
There is a Nellie Hoboken (?) listed in Epsom, Surrey in 1901 living with her father William Holt, a racehorse trainer. Married to Anthony Hoboken (?).

Just trying to get the reference now...........

RG13/583 page 18

Was she a spinster on her marriage certificate?
Phoenix
13-11-09, 10:51
From the website:

030 Yorkshire - East, North and West Ridings
Caroline
13-11-09, 10:56
Headingley? - Leeds area. :)
Phoenix
13-11-09, 11:38
There's an Ellen Holt, born Leeds RD March 1884
Merry
13-11-09, 11:39
Thanks for that Phoenix.

Caroline - that was the only place I could think of, but it din't help when I looked back.

Sue, I'm assuming she was a spinster as her dad was W J Holt, but with this lot anything is possible!! I have asked my contact if dad had an occ on the marriage cert.
Merry
13-11-09, 11:44
There's an Ellen Holt, born Leeds RD March 1884

Oooh, *goes to look*
Phoenix
13-11-09, 11:45
This ref must be for her: RG12 piece 3709 folio 106 page 22

She's in Headingley in 1891 and Dad is Willaim James Holt, a wholesale drapery merchant
Merry
13-11-09, 11:51
Whoops, I just typed all you just typed! lol Thank you so much - I'm pretty sure that is her as dad's job is the 'right sort of thing' to fit with wat she was (supposed) to have been like according to gran! (dau of trade! pmsl!!!)

Thanks again....
Merry
13-11-09, 12:09
Oooh, Ellen/Nellie was at a Ladies School in Hendon in 1901. That would account for her lack of Yorkshire accent, perhaps??!!! :eek:
Margaret in Burton
13-11-09, 14:25
Well done Merry, you're getting somewhere by the look of it.
Merry
13-11-09, 14:31
Indeed!! Thanks to the census image!

It seems a little strange that she changed her first name to Nellie, as to me Helen or Ellen sound more sophisticated than Nellie and Nellie was desparate to become more sophisticated.

Actually having said that.......Sadly Nellie's only child was killed in WW2 and on the CWGC details he is given as the son of Helen.
Sally
13-11-09, 18:09
drat drat drat. come in on the action too late as usual.......I spotted that it was Headingly straight away cos I was born there.

*goes off to sulk as have missed a chance to help
Merry
13-11-09, 19:10
lol Sally!! *passes some soothing chocolate over*