Sparrow Bethnal Green 1841

[Asa]

These people would all appear to be in the same dwelling in 1841. Elizabeth Co(a)ker is my 5x great grandmother and Martha Phipps her daughter. I'm a bit interested in Elizabeth Sparrow as Elizabeth Coaker had a daughter Elizabeth born 1807 whose fate I haven't found. It could be coincidence of course but I've been trying to find out more about the Sparrows here to dis/prove it and am getting nowhere.

Can anyone see anything on them?

Piece: 692 Book/Folio: 4/7 Page 6

PHIPPS, John M 29 1812 Middlesex
PHIPPS, Robert M 7 1834 Middlesex
PHIPPS, John M 6 1835 Middlesex
PHIPPS, Martha F 26 1815 Middlesex
PHIPPS, Martha F 2 1839 Middlesex
PHIPPS, Elizabeth F 4 1837 Middlesex
PHIPPS, Charlotte F 1 1840 Middlesex
COAKER, Elizabeth F 55 1786 Middlesex
SPARROW, William M 33 1808 Middlesex
SPARROW, Thomas M 1 1840 Middlesex
SPARROW, Elizabeth F 34 1807 Middlesex
SPARROW, Mary F 72 1769 Middlesex

[kiterunner]

There is an Elizabeth Sparrow at 18 Mary Street, Shoreditch, on the 1861 census, a widow age 52, stay maker, born Shoreditch, with a daughter Elizabeth age 15 also born Shoreditch. l'll see if I can find them in 1851 to rule them out (or in.)

[Asa]

Thanks for having a look - I can't find a marriage for William and Elizabeth, a baptism for him or for Thomas. Doesn't appear to be anything on the non parochial BMDs either. I have some RC discs I'll look at.

That 1861 looks possible - there is t an ancestry baptism for Elizabeth junior

[kiterunner]

I never found them in 1851, by the way. :(

[Asa]

Nor could I - it makes me suspect the 1861 may be the 1841 lot because there's nothing on them

[Phoenix]

Are these possible candidates:

SPARROW, William Head Married M 49 1802 Cabinet Maker
Gloucestershire
SPARROW, Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1807
Shoreditch, Middlesex
SPARROW, Henry Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Shoreditch, Middlesex
SPARROW, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Shoreditch,

Piece: 1534
Folio: 503
Page: 20
Registration District: Shoreditch
Civil Parish: Saint Leonard Shoreditch
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 7, Charles Street, Saint Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

[Phoenix]

This is Elizabeth's marriage: http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_198091-00066/7581635?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLMAmarriages%26rank%3d1%26new %3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3delizabeth%26gsln%3dsparrow%26dbOnly%3d_ F00058A6%257c_F00058A6_x%252c_F0005A5D%257c_F0005A 5D_x%252c_F0005A49%257c_F0005A49_x%26uidh%3d9vh%26 gl%3d%26gst%3d%26hc%3d50%26fh%3d50%26fsk%3dBEENq34 IgAAGVwBf5Ro-61-&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Any clues in Raisebeck as a middle name or the Vennears as witnesses?

[kiterunner]

Oh, well spotted, Phoenix! They're transcribed as Sharrow on ancestry on that 1851 census.

[kiterunner]

Just remembered that William on the 1841 census is a weaver. So maybe not the same family.

[Asa]

Thank you Phoenix :) that's very likely the same family as on the 1861 - the names mean nothing to me and it doesn't *feel* like my lot. I will have a look into this more - Kate, a lot of weavers were abandoning the trade at this time so it is possibly the same lot as the 1841.

Lots to investigate - thank you