Surrey Parish Records - ancestry [Archive] - Genealogists' Forum

kiterunner

29-05-13, 10:17

Ooh, that's exciting, Sue, thanks.

Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1538-1812 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4790)
Baptisms 1813-1912 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4772)
Marriages 1754-1937 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4779)
Burials 1813-1987 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4786)

Includes images.

ElizabethHerts

29-05-13, 10:22

Oh dear, no h*******k today!

ElizabethHerts

29-05-13, 10:45

I'm looking at St Mary's, Guildford, and the marriages seem to be missing.
:(

I can find the baptisms and burials, but no marriages.

kiterunner

29-05-13, 10:53

What date are you looking for, Elizabeth?
Marriages from 1813 on:
1813-1877 Marriages Guildford St Mary (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/4779/40761_312034-00077?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d4779%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing)
1877-1900 (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/4779/40761_312034-00391?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2 fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d4779%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing)

But I can't see the pre-1813 ones.

kiterunner

29-05-13, 10:56

These are supposed to be Guildford St Mary 1812 marriages (from the London PR collection):
Guildford St Mary 1812 (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31547_213795-00090/10172440?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d0%26f8%3d%26f10%3d%26sx%3d% 26rg_81004011__date%3d%26rs_81004011__date%3d0%26r g_f51__date%3d%26rs_f51__date%3d0%26f99%3d%26f53%3 dguil*ford%26f23%3d%26f24%3d%26f18%3d%26f19%3d%26f 28%3d%26f29%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26db%3dlmamarr iages%26ti%3d5538%26ti.si%3d0%26gl%3d%26gss%3dmp-lmamarriages%26gst%3d%26so%3d3&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=31547_21379 5-00088)

ElizabethHerts

29-05-13, 11:03

I'm looking specifically for a marriage in 1791 at present, but I shall be going further back.
I know some approx. dates as a couple of marriages were by licence and I got them from the LMA yonks ago.

ElizabethHerts

29-05-13, 11:17

Interesting, they have the burial of my great-great-grandmother Elizabeth White (maiden name Stillwell) in 1932.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/4786/40815_1831101883_0846-00015/2076907?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dSurreyBurials%26rank%3d1%26ne w%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db% 26gsln%3dWhite%26msdpn__ftp%3dGuildford%252c%2bSur rey%252c%2bEngland%26msdpn%3d87736%26msdpn_PInfo%3 d8-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5286%257c87736%257c0%257c%26uidh%3dxt1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

It's given for St Saviour's, Guildford, which is where the religious service was held, but she was cremated at Brookwood, and buried at Stoke Old Cemetery.

31st August 1932 Service at St Saviour's Guildford.
Cremation at Brookwood.
Buried 31st August 1932
Stoke Old Cemetery, Stoughton Road, Guildford
Grave no 564, Section B

Rick

29-05-13, 15:26

Thanks Sue - just as well it's raining as I've done nothing but look at these records all afternoon !!

Not all the images are indexed yet from the look of things. The Ockley and Mickleham registers are browsable for example, but don't appear in and index search.

Phoenix

31-05-13, 07:55

Oh, it's wonderful to see full colour images after years of peering at microfiche!

However, I have just noticed that a chunk of Godalming has been transcribed twice, and the second time it is ascribed to Guildford St Mary. Close, but not right.

Nell

03-06-13, 14:43

Very glad about this. I've finally managed to bury my gt x 2 grandparents John Smoothy and his wife Ann Chowns Smoothy. It was their family bible that got me a long way in my research.

I've also found Ann's nephew William Chowns and niece Hannah Chowns married in Richmond and both gave their addresses as Vestry Cottage, which is where John and Ann lived for the latter part of their lives. It all helps to build up a picture.

Nell

03-06-13, 14:50

And I've finally found my grandmother's baptism - and it gives her address as 21 Compton Terrace, Mortlake Rd, which is great, as her birth cert just said Compton Terrace and I've not been able to locate it.

I had to browse the images as she's been mistranscribed as Smortty instead of Smoothy!

ElizabethHerts

03-06-13, 14:52

Good result, Nell!

I've had some success, but frustrations also as some parishes don't have later records.

Nell

03-06-13, 14:58

The entry immediately above my grandmother is her cousin, Esther, my Mum's "Aunt Hett"!

Can you tell I'm a bit excited?!

ElizabethHerts

03-06-13, 15:06

Nell, it's great you have that excitement. It's very special to see the PRs.

Recently there have been so many new collections to view and I have been so busy looking at new information, but I never lose that buzz. I remember how you'd have to wait for months sometimes for something new, and I remember starting collecting wills, but now I seem to find will after will, but every one gives me pleasure.

Nell

03-06-13, 15:06

And Aunt Hett's sister Bessie had a twin I knew nothing about!!!

ElizabethHerts

03-06-13, 15:13

You're on a roll!

Nell

03-06-13, 15:15

Well I've had my share of frustration too, Elizabeth! I don't think my Mum knew about Bessie's twin - poor mite died aged 2 months. But she always said her mother and cousin Hett were baptised on the same day.

Nell

08-06-13, 09:02

Yay! I've got a death cert for my gt grandfather's sister Edith who died unmarried. I'd assumed the address was that of her employers, but now I've found her cousin Susan's marriage I found the groom gave the same address. Susan and her husband are living there in 1891, so it looks as though they cared for Edith in her final illness.

kiterunner

28-01-14, 10:15

These have been updated, but as ever, it's not easy to find out what exactly has been added but they say 400,000 records have been added.

Mary from Italy

29-01-14, 18:11

Thanks, Kate, but how annoying; the only parish I'm interested in is Penge, and it isn't there :(

maggie_4_7

29-01-14, 18:20

Thanks, Kate, but how annoying; the only parish I'm interested in is Penge, and it isn't there :(

Me too but the registration district is Croydon I know Penge got a bit confusing with the county changes in 1899 so it was in Surrey and then in Kent so there's probably a dispute on who owns the records. Some records I've found are now in the Bromley, Kent boundary for some reason.

Mary from Italy

29-01-14, 18:58

Yes, I know there's some overlap with Kent; apparently earlier marriages are likely to be found in Beckenham.

Mary from Italy

29-01-14, 19:00

I'm really curious to find out why several people from one of my Yorkshire families moved to Penge in the 1860s. It seems like an odd place to go.

Phoenix

29-01-14, 19:17

Penge is such a modern parish that many of the records may still be with the incumbent (they certainly were twenty years ago) with copies in Bromley library.

Originally the area was a detached part of Battersea.

Mary from Italy

29-01-14, 20:45

The births/baptisms I'm interested in date from the 1850s.

Phoenix

29-01-14, 21:02

Hmm. St John the Evangelist, created from Battersea 1851.

Bromley Library.

Greater London is neither fish nor fowl: not LMA nor SHC. Though Croydon isn't a diocesan office, so its records are at the SHC.

ElizabethHerts

29-01-14, 21:08

Mary, I'm also interested in Penge records.

OH's great-great-grandparents, George Herbert and Emily Newton, married at St John the Evangelist, Penge, and had three children in Penge. The years were 1878, 1879 and 1880, and I don't have baptisms for any of them.

We go to Chislehurst once a week and went to Bromley yesterday, so I will have to investigage the library. If I go I'll let you know and I can see if I can find anything for you, but I will be accompanied by a 3-year-old, so it depends on the forbearance of my OH and grandson!

Phoenix

29-01-14, 21:15

Next month my journey to a client will pass the church on a daily basis. That bit of Penge is rather attractive, complete with almshouses.

ElizabethHerts

29-01-14, 21:18

We visited the church 6 years ago and found the house where OH's family lived. It was in Selby Road, and we believe that his great-great-grandfather designed it as it was new when they moved in and he was an architect. I have a few photos of it and it has 1877 on the front wall.

Phoenix

29-01-14, 21:26

Wow! Have you considered contacting Bromley regarding any records they might have? Croydon has all sorts of documents regarding house building and sales particulars.

ElizabethHerts

29-01-14, 21:37

I really should do that, Phoenix.

Here is the house at 47 Selby Road.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc78/lambelizabeth/47SelbyRoad5_zps73e4c8e0.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/lambelizabeth/media/47SelbyRoad5_zps73e4c8e0.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc78/lambelizabeth/47SelbyRoad2_zps693d325a.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/lambelizabeth/media/47SelbyRoad2_zps693d325a.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc78/lambelizabeth/47SelbyRoad4_zps4c1dfa7e.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/lambelizabeth/media/47SelbyRoad4_zps4c1dfa7e.jpg.html)

They didn't stay there very long because George Herbert Newton died in the house in 1885 aged 34 from cancer of the rectum. Poor Emily was left with a young family.

Phoenix

29-01-14, 21:41

What lovely polychrome brickwork. And what a dreaful end for the young man.

ElizabethHerts

29-01-14, 21:41

What is also very interesting is that George's son, Percy, who is OH's grandfather, was also an architect and the family lived in a house he designed at Tubbenden Lane, Orpington. OH lived there as a baby and young boy until they moved for his father's job. There were at least two houses designed by him there, possibly more. OH and his family lived in one, and his grandmother in another. His grandfather also died relatively young (53). The family are buried in Beckenham Cemetery.

ElizabethHerts

29-01-14, 21:42

What lovely polychrome brickwork. And what a dreaful end for the young man.

You could see that it was once a lovely road, but I'm afraid it's a good old mixture now. It must have been quite rural when the houses were built.

Mary from Italy

29-01-14, 23:33

We go to Chislehurst once a week and went to Bromley yesterday, so I will have to investigage the library. If I go I'll let you know and I can see if I can find anything for you, but I will be accompanied by a 3-year-old, so it depends on the forbearance of my OH and grandson!

That'd be very kind of you, thanks very much, but don't worry if it's a problem with the family :)

I also have people who lived in Beckenham, but practically the whole extended family emigrated to Australia in the 1860s, so there's nobody much buried there.