Geo Peter Christian [Archive] - Genealogists' Forum

kiterunner

26-03-13, 16:56

My 5xg-grandparents Francis Freemantle and Isabella Buie got married 1st Sep 1765 at St Dunstan in the West, City of London:
LMA records ancestry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31281_A101489-00048&fn=Francis&ln=Freemantle&st=d&ssrc=&pid=229920)

Francis Freemantle bachelor and Isabella Buie spinster both of the Liberty of the Rolls married by Banns, witnesses Geo Peter Christian and Saml Buie. Samuel Buie was Isabella's brother (I have loads on the Buie family already) but who was Geo Peter Christian? Or am I misreading his name?

Shona

26-03-13, 17:27

It does look like Geo Peter Christian. I've looked at some of the other pages and he doesn't appear to be a serial witness (a John Davis witnesses quite a lot of the others). Can't find an obvious link between the Freemantles and Christians.

Perhaps Francis had a friend or colleague as his witness as he didn't have any family nearby.

kiterunner

26-03-13, 18:07

Thanks for looking, Shona. Francis is one of my brick walls! There are a few other Freemantles around the area, even some called Francis, but nothing to connect them to my Francis, who was a victualler and died in 1792. There is a Francis Freemantle who was christened in Salisbury, Wiltshire, 20 Apr 1740, son of Francis and Catherine, but I don't know whether he is my Francis or not.

kiterunner

26-03-13, 18:12

There is a George Peter Christian Hammersley baptised 4 Jan 1778 at St Dunstan, Stepney, age 32 days, son of Joseph Hammersley of Ratcliff, colemeeler(?) and Amelia. I wonder whether he was named after George Peter Christian?

kiterunner

26-03-13, 18:37

Geo Petr Christian is listed in the apprentice records on ancestry, apprentice to John Russell, cit and wheelwr of London, duty paid 12 Dec 1759.
Then John Russell is a witness at Joseph Hammersley's marriage to Amelia Phillips 13 Feb 1766.
So at least that gives us a rough idea of when George Peter Christian was likely born, well, assuming there is only one person of that name! Also it doesn't look as though he would have been a colleague of Francis's.

Shona

26-03-13, 19:43

This might be a clue - or a total red herring - I have found an Andrew Fromanteel, vintner, London, on the London Lives website. The incident is from 1719.

Here's the link:

http://www.londonlives.org/browse.jsp?id=LMSLPS15030_n65-4&div=LMSLPS15030PS150300017#highlight

I love that site!

Shona

26-03-13, 19:56

Also on London Lives, there is a fire insurance policy for a Jn Freemantle, Vict, Salisbury. The date is 1778, though.

http://www.londonlives.org/browse.jsp?id=persName7fire_1775_1780_186_18646&div=fire_1775_1780_186_18646#highlight

kiterunner

26-03-13, 22:07

Interesting, thanks Shona.

Janet

27-03-13, 01:00

Congratulations, Kite! You've provided me with the only word I think I have ever encountered that offers up one and only one hit on the world wide web when searched with quotes around it: colemeeler. The hit it gets is the Hammersley one Shona already put up.

Janet

27-03-13, 01:09

Old Occupations (http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/c2.html)
Coalmeter Measured the coal
???

Janet

27-03-13, 01:31

Have you seen this discussion of the Fremantle/Freemantle family? Includes the marriage of Francis and Isabella.
rootschat (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=635392.0)

tenterfieldjulie

27-03-13, 05:20

A John Russell tree was cited when doing the Sancton Bell thread. John Russell's dau Anna Maria married Thomas Bell and their son Thomas Frederick Bell (if my memory is correct) was also an apprentice to John Russell.. They all seemed to mixed up trading in coal. So there seem to be connections here, but might be only in business. Julie

kiterunner

27-03-13, 07:24

No, I hadn't seen that, Janet, thanks. I can't find that James Buye Fremantle on ancestry - all the images for St Saviour around 1781 are unreadable. But I can't see anything else in that thread that connects my Francis to the people they mention.

kiterunner

27-03-13, 08:16