View Full Version : Evan Jones / Elizabeth Nixon married 1849 Liverpool
garstonite
25-03-13, 20:30
Hiya ..Wendy in South Africa and myself have this couple as our 3 x g grandparents...Lancsbmd has Elizabeth Nixon to Evan Jones ...
the trouble is that Wendy has found A TREE that states Elizabeth was
Elizabeth Ryley Nixon ...Wendy has found her christening record
Elizabeth Ryley Day Nixon christened 22nd february 1835 at St John the Baptist,Liverpool
Evan Jones died in 1861 and Elizabeth then married William Rigby ..
the tree that Wendy found has - RIGBY Day Elizabeth died 3rd May 1907 in Garston Hospital..freebmd has RIGBY Elizabeth Day aged 71 june qtr 1907 West Derby ,Liverpool (Garstons registration District ) so that looks to be right ..but ...all this info leads Wendy and myself with one conclusion ..
was Elizabeth Nixon on her 1849 marriage to Evan Jones just 14 years of age ??? 1841 census has her aged 10 with parents Robert Nixon and Elizabeth in Toxteth ,Liverpool..but b 1835 died aged 71 in 1907 all fits ??
Would Elizabeth Day Rigby death cert have her mothers name on it ??
thanks for reading , and I would appreciate peoples thoughts ...Wendy LF and I are sceptical about this tree which goes back with our supposed 4 5 and 6 G GRANPARENTS ...if it`s genuine ...LOL
thanks
allan
kiterunner
25-03-13, 22:12
It sounds as if you don't have Evan and Elizabeth's marriage certificate, Allan, is that right? If so then your best bet is to get that.
Elizabeth Ryley Day Nixon christened 22nd february 1835
That's not what the baptism says......"Elizabeth Ryley Nixon D of" (ie daughter of, not Day!)
No middle name at all on either of the marriages.
On the same day Elizabeth is christened her brother Benjamin Day Nixon was also christened so she might of been born a few years before 1835.
Shouldn't that be Benjamin Ryley Nixon, not Day?
No Merry, image on Ancestry is clearly Benjamin Day s of Robert & Elizabeth Nixon.
kiterunner
25-03-13, 22:47
Would Elizabeth Day Rigby death cert have her mothers name on it ??
Not if she died in England / Wales, no.
How odd, I must have remembered it incorrectly.
Still no Day on Elizabeth's bap though!
Allan, it would be helpful if you could give us some details about your 2xg-grandparent who is Elizabeth's child and what census records you have for Elizabeth and her husbands.
garstonite
26-03-13, 06:29
Ann Jones b 1854
Mary Ellen Jones b 1858 ...Mary married Carl Freidrich Sacht ...be back soon
allan
garstonite
26-03-13, 06:51
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9618&highlight=sacht
This was the post from 2 years ago ...that is wrong now...Evan Jones was the father of Mary Ellen Jones and Ann Jones ....
Wendy LF has the family tree
according to that tree - Elizabeth Jones is in 70 Upper Wolfe st Toxteth in 1851
and in 107 Wolfe st Toxteth in 1861
Evan Jones died in May 1861 so I presume he is with her in 1851 but not in 1861.....
allan
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:10
So, Allan, are you saying that you have found Mary Ellen's marriage certificate and it says Evan for father's name, not David? Or have you found out that the father's name on the marriage certificate is wrong, and if so, how did you find that out, please?
garstonite
26-03-13, 07:16
This is how this tree that Wendy LF found - I won`t put all in - just those that will relate to Wendy and I
Descendants of John Day
John Day b c1751 Birmingham,Waricks married Sarah Green(b c 1759) 22nd june 1779 in Birmingham
their daughter Elizabeth Day is born 1780 ....she marries Benjamin Ryley on 21st feb 1798 in Birmingham
their child Elizabeth Ryley is born 13th feb 1807 in Pitt st ,Liverpool..she marries Robert Nixon on 24th july 1825 at St James church Toxteth ,Liverpool
that leads us to
Elizabeth Ryley Nixon who was baptised 22nd feb 1835 and she married Evan Jones in 1849.......their 2 girls were Ann Jones b 1854 and Mary Ellen Jones b 1858
Mary Ellen Jones b 1858 is the gg grandmother of Wendy LF and myself...
Mary Ellen married Carl Freidrich Sacht...their 2 girls were
Sophia Sacht -my g grandmother
Adelaide Sacht - g grandmother of Wendy LF ...
so ...are John Day and Sarah Green our ggggg grandparents ??
garstonite
26-03-13, 07:22
Hiya Kate ...thanks for helping ....I found out through Evan Datlef Oakes b 1912 ( if I remember right)...he was named after his 2 grandparents
Datlef Sacht and Evan Jones...his daughter is still alive and was with me when we went to Carl Sachts grave last year over in Ireland
allan
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:27
FamilySearch shows the fathers' names on the marriage as Datlef Sacht and Evan Jones, too. What is Evan's occupation on Mary's marriage certificate? I think we need to check each step carefully as we don't know where the owner of that tree got their information from.
garstonite
26-03-13, 07:29
FamilySearch shows the fathers' names on the marriage as Datlef Sacht and Evan Jones, too. What is Evan's occupation on Mary's marriage certificate? I think we need to check each step carefully as we don't know where the owner of that tree got their information from.
A Joiner .....I remember that because I am a Joiner as well
allan
added...He was b in Monmouthshire if I remember correctly about 1812-15 and Yes - Wendy and I are both sceptical of this tree ...I think Wendy is e-mailing him today
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:34
So this looks like the family in 1861:
1861 census ancestry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=LANRG9_2703_2705-0057&fn=Mary+Ellen&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=23104775)
107 Woolf Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Evan Jones Head Mar 51 Ship Joiner Montgomeryshire Llanegog(?)
Elizabeth Do Wife Mar 28 Lancashire Liverpool
Ann Do Daur 6 Scholar Do Do
Mary Ellen Do Daur 4 Scholar Do Do
Amy Rower(?) Visitor Mar 26(?) Dress Maker Yorkshire Skipton.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:40
And this looks like them in 1851:
1851 census ancestry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8860&iid=LANHO107_2187_2187-0539&fn=Evan&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=12974207)
80 Upper Woolfe Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Evan Jones Head Mar 39 Joiner Wales Montgomeryshire
Elizabeth Do Wife Do 19 Lancaster Lpool
David Jones Son 12 Scholar Do Do
Jane Do Daur 9 Do Do Do.
garstonite
26-03-13, 07:44
I am out with the house numbers - but yes Kate ...that`s the info I had ..
looking at that ..When was 1861 census taken ?...was it after May 1861 ?..because that`s the month I have for his death ...checking freebmd ...cos I might be wrong
allan
ADDED...june qtr 1861 Jones Evan West Derby .....so I think it was in May he died ...though I can`t remember where the May death info came from ??..just checking my tree ..back soon
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:47
This could be them in 1841 but is very faint:
1841 census ancestry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8978&iid=LANHO107_568_568-0633&fn=David&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5991754)
20 Grafton Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Evan Jones 30 Joiner No
Mary Do 25 "
Thomas Do 8 "
Elizabeth Do 7 "
David Do 2 Y.
But there is also this family with no occupation shown, also Evan older than he would be to match the other censuses:
1841 other entry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8978&iid=LANHO107_557_557-0152&fn=David&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5773066)
Ford Street, Liverpool
Evan Jones 35 No Wales
Elizabeth Do 30 No
William Do 10 Yes
Evan Do 4 Yes
David 2 Yes
Ann Shaw 60 No
Elizabeth Morris 40 Yes.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:48
I am out with the house numbers - but yes Kate ...that`s the info I had ..
looking at that ..When was 1861 census taken ?...was it after May 1861 ?..because that`s the month I have for his death ...checking freebmd ...cos I might be wrong
allan
The 1861 census was taken in April.
garstonite
26-03-13, 07:54
Oh dear ...Robert W Jones born 1863 ....how have I got him as Elizabeths son - if Evan died in 1861 ?...sorry Kate ...need to spend a little time on the tree to see where Robert appeared from ...lol...giving them kids that may not be theirs ...ha ha
I can only think that when I mistakenly had David as the dad on that post 2 years ago ...I never deleted Robert ....
It also seems unlikely that Evan/Eliz married 1849 - Ann is the first child born 5 years later in 1854 ??...I wonder if they had a child that died in those 5 years ??
kiterunner
26-03-13, 07:59
Normally I would say the next step is to get Mary Ellen's birth certificate to check Elizabeth's maiden name, but there are quite a few possible registrations for her between 1856 and 1857 in Liverpool and West Derby districts. And it's no use looking for her sister Ann's birth registration instead! I was hoping to find Mary Ellen's baptism to see whether it gave an exact date of birth, but not found that.
garstonite
26-03-13, 08:01
Well - according to the tree that Wendy found on Sunday ...IF it`s right ??
Evan Jones is in Grafton Street in 1841 ..so that matches the first one you found ..
so ...is that Evan with a wife and children ??
was Elizabeth his second wife ?
allan
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:03
Still, if you get a copy of the Evan Jones / Elizabeth Nixon marriage certificate, which does look a good bet, it will give Evan's occupation and say whether he was a widower, so at least that should confirm whether it is the right marriage. Also, if it is, it will give details of Elizabeth's father which will help with tracing her line.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:03
Well - according to the tree that Wendy found on Sunday ...IF it`s right ??
Evan Jones is in Grafton Street in 1841 ..so that matches the first one you found ..
so ...is that Evan with a wife and children ??
was Elizabeth his second wife ?
allan
Yes, it looks as though he had a wife before Elizabeth. Not surprising given the big age gap between them.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:04
Look at post #18 on this thread, Allan - in 1851 Evan has a son David 12 and daughter Jane 9 who are much too old to be Elizabeth's children, so he must have been married before.
garstonite
26-03-13, 08:05
Normally I would say the next step is to get Mary Ellen's birth certificate to check Elizabeth's maiden name, but there are quite a few possible registrations for her between 1856 and 1857 in Liverpool and West Derby districts. And it's no use looking for her sister Ann's birth registration instead! I was hoping to find Mary Ellen's baptism to see whether it gave an exact date of birth, but not found that.
I HAVE 5th august 1860 for Mary Ellens baptism at St Michaels church Garston ...but ...she is in Toxteth in 1861 - so why come to Garston for the baptism ??...going to have to check this as well
allan
ADDED...Mary Ellen was 19 at her marriage on 31st jan 1877 ...states b 1858
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:22
ADDED...Mary Ellen was 19 at her marriage on 31st jan 1877 ...states b 1858
That would only mean she was born in 1858 if her birthday was in January! If she was born in any other month then she still had her birthday to come in 1877 and she would be 20 on that birthday. Also her age on the 1861 census is more likely to be accurate than her age on her marriage certificate.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:23
I HAVE 5th august 1860 for Mary Ellens baptism at St Michaels church Garston ...but ...she is in Toxteth in 1861 - so why come to Garston for the baptism ??...going to have to check this as well
That is the baptism of the Mary Ellen Jones whose father was called David.
garstonite
26-03-13, 08:25
17th feb 1850 Edward Evan Jones ...baptised at St Pauls,Liverpool
parents Evan Jones and Elizabeth ....I am posting this for Wendy LF ...?? is this a possible 1st child for Evan /Elizabeth that may have died ?...(1849 to 1854 ..5 years before they had their first child Ann Jones ..seems a long time)
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:35
17th feb 1850 Edward Evan Jones ...baptised at St Pauls,Liverpool
parents Evan Jones and Elizabeth ....I am posting this for Wendy LF ...?? is this a possible 1st child for Evan /Elizabeth that may have died ?...(1849 to 1854 ..5 years before they had their first child Ann Jones ..seems a long time)
Father's occupation on that one is Beerhouse Keeper, so it doesn't look like the same family. Abode is Moor Fields if that means anything to you?
garstonite
26-03-13, 08:37
Father's occupation on that one is Beerhouse Keeper, so it doesn't look like the same family. Abode is Moor Fields if that means anything to you?
Thanks Kate...we can rule Edward out then ...cheers....Moorfields is city centre - where a lot of pubs were ...
added
got to go out ...be back later
thanks Kate for all your help...you are a star
allan
kiterunner
26-03-13, 08:45
Not sure whether this is a red herring but I have found this marriage on ancestry which could be Mary Ellen's sister Ann:
Liverpool marriages (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=2197&iid=englb5617_283-ham-3-13_m_00029&fn=Annie&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5834296)
9th Jul 1876 Toxteth St Michael
Alfred Dickinson Briscoe, 19, bachelor, occupation Smith, residence Northumberland St., father John Briscoe, saddler
Annie Jones, 19, spinster, residence Essex St., father Evan Jones, ship joiner. Witnesses Evan Jones and Mary L H Dickinson.
If it is the same family then it seems that Evan was still alive in 1876 unless there is another Evan Jones.
kiterunner
26-03-13, 09:20
Anyway, going back to the original question about Elizabeth Ryley Nixon, just to see if we can rule her out, this is her family in 1841:
Caffe Place, New Grove Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Robert Nixon 30 Mariner Y
Elizabeth Do 30 Y
Robt Benjn Do 12 Y
Elizabeth Do 10 Y
Benjamin Do 8 Y
Margaret Do 5 Y
William Do 3 Y
So we can see that she was born about 1831 but baptised at the same time as her younger brother Benjamin. So she could be your Elizabeth Nixon. She has left home (or died) by the time of the 1851 census:
Robert Nixon Head Mar 45 Mariner Lancashire Liverpool
Elizabeth " Wife Mar 40 do do
Benjamin " Son U 15 do do
Margaret " daur 14 do do
Susannah " " 8 do do
Sarah Nixon daur 6 Lancashire Liverpool
Rupert J " Son 3 do "
William " Brother U 43 Mariner do do
And there is a marriage 17 Dec 1854 at St John the Baptist, Toxteth Park:
Harry Dericate 20 bachelor Brick Maker, Park Street, father Robert Dericate, lieutenant
Margaret Nixon 18 spinster Northumberland Street, father Robert Nixon, stevedore
Witnesses Evan Jones and Elizabeth Jones!!
Margaret Nixon marriage (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=2197&iid=englb5617_283-bap-3-4_m_00166&fn=Harry&ln=Dericate&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1844595)
That looks very promising, doesn't it?
garstonite
26-03-13, 10:09
That tree has the same census return in Caffe Place ....it is all starting to match - that`s a great find of Evan and Elizabeth as witnesses...looking to me as though that tree has been well researched...I am very curious as to what year Elizabeth and children Ann and Mary Ellen came to Garston ...William Henry Rigby married Elizabeth Jones sept qtr 1861 .......Evan only died in the May of that year ....Lancs bmd has
Rigby William Henry to Elizabeth Jones
Rigby William Henry to Elizabeth Nixon ....St Michaels ,Toxteth ( St Michaels in the Hamlet - not St Michaels, Garston ).....going to see if I can find a date on familysearch ...Ann would have been 7 and Mary Ellen would have been 3 when Elizabeth re-married ...are William and Elizabeth in Garston with Ann and Mary Ellen in 1871 census ??..
according to that tree...William and Elizabeth had 4 children .
Elizabeth Ryley Rigby b 1862 died 1863
William Henry Rigby b 1864 died 1866
ELIZABETH DAY RIGBY b 1868 ...died 1904
Sarah Jane Rigby b 1870 died 1942 ........
back soon ,I hope
kiterunner
26-03-13, 10:25
The Lancs BMD entry for that marriage has William Henry Rigby / Elizabeth Jones or Nixon, so it is definitely her. At Toxteth Park St Michael, 1861.
garstonite
26-03-13, 10:33
am I right in this
Toxteth Park .Liverpool 1871 .......is this my gg grandmother down as Rigby and not Jones ?
William H Rigby aged 44
Elizabeth 38
Mary E aged 14
Elizabeth aged 3.....Elizabeth Day Rigby on that tree?
Sarah J aged 0 ......Sarah Jane Rigby on that tree ?
allan...if so ...they are not in Garston yet ....Mary Ellen married at St Peters ,Liverpool 31st Jan 1877....so when did she come to Garston ?....
kiterunner
26-03-13, 10:35
This is the Rigby family in 1871, another faint one:
1871 census (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LANRG10_3798_3800-0193&fn=Elizabeth&ln=Wright&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6870320)
William H Rigby Head Mar 44 Dock Labourer Lancashire Liverpool
Elizabeth Do Wife Mar 38 Do Do
Mary E Do Daur 14 Scholar Do Do
Elizabeth Do Daur 3 Do Do
Sarah(?) J Do Daur 9 mo Do Do
John Ellis Lodger Unm 24 Dock Labourer Do Do.
Edit - snap, Allan!
kiterunner
26-03-13, 10:36
What is Mary Ellen's address on her marriage certificate, Allan?
garstonite
26-03-13, 10:38
Adelaide E Sacht registered Toxteth Park in 1880 ....so they are still not in Garston ..
ADDED
I have the cert Kate...trouble is - we moved house on feb 4th this year ..about 7 weeks ago ...and I have an idea where it is - ...but will take a while to find it ...
I was under the illusion that Carl and Mary ellen moved here around the birth of Sophia Sacht who was born 1878...I am obviously wrong ...
I suppose it`s possible they were going back to St Michaels ,Toxteth Park for marriages /baptisms ...if you look at
Sophia Sacht - my g grandmother she married St Michaels - Toxteth Park in 1899
Adelaide E Sacht Wendys g grandmother - she married St Michaels ,Wavertree in 1900 ( actually in Garston...our local church )..
Mary Ellen Jones ( who became Sacht ) was in Byrom Street ,Garston when her husband was killed at sea in August 1901....We know that for a fact ....I am now wondering if Elizabeth (Nixon) Jones then Rigby , ever actually lived in Garston....I am beginning to think she never ...
What is Mary Ellen's address on her marriage certificate, Allan?
Just catching up here, the address for Mary Ellen is Duke St, her father Evan's proffesion is recorded as Labourer.
No reply received yet from the owner of the tree I found.
kiterunner
27-03-13, 08:39
I was under the illusion that Carl and Mary ellen moved here around the birth of Sophia Sacht who was born 1878...I am obviously wrong ...
I suppose it`s possible they were going back to St Michaels ,Toxteth Park for marriages /baptisms ...if you look at
On the 1881 census Mary and her children are at 9/6 Bk Grafton Street, Toxteth Park. I believe you already have this. Then in 1891 the family are at 21 Byron Street, Garston. So they must have moved to Garston between 1881 and 1891.
Not sure whether this is a red herring but I have found this marriage on ancestry which could be Mary Ellen's sister Ann:
Liverpool marriages (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=2197&iid=englb5617_283-ham-3-13_m_00029&fn=Annie&ln=Jones&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5834296)
9th Jul 1876 Toxteth St Michael
Alfred Dickinson Briscoe, 19, bachelor, occupation Smith, residence Northumberland St., father John Briscoe, saddler
Annie Jones, 19, spinster, residence Essex St., father Evan Jones, ship joiner. Witnesses Evan Jones and Mary L H Dickinson.
If it is the same family then it seems that Evan was still alive in 1876 unless there is another Evan Jones.
I've looked at this before and came to no real conclusion. I contacted someone who had Annie in their tree, but, they were unable to help, the reply received was "I have an Annie Jones marrying Alfred Dickinsn Briscoe in 1876 - gives father as Evan. Havent been able to find her in a census prior to 1876 with siblings."
Interestingly though Annie and Alfred Biscoe are witnesses at the marriage of a Thomas Jones to Ruth Campbell in 1880, Thomas is a joiner and father listed as deceased.
kiterunner
27-03-13, 09:35
Okay, so this is Thomas in 1851:
7 Essex St., Toxteth Park
Evan Jones Head M 38 Joiner Wales
Mary " W Mar 33 "
Hannah " Daur 12 Scholar "
Mary " " 6 do
Esther " " 4 House Liverpool
Thomas " Son 1 "
and in 1861:
11 Essex St., Toxteth Park
Evan Jones Head Widr 48 Joiner Merionethshire Wales
Esther Do Daur Un 14 As servant at home Liverpool
Thomas Do Son 11 Scholar Do
John Do Son 9 Do Do
Ann Do Daur 3 Do
And in 1851 and 1861 your Evan is with Elizabeth, so the Annie who married Alfred Briscoe must be the one from this other family.
Another dead end I came to in trying to trace Mary Ellen's family was when I noted that on the marriage register of my great grandmothers marriage (Adelaide Sacht to John Wesley Boyle 15.09.1900), Edith Mary Jones and Christian Hankinson were the witnesses. Again, I contacted a tree owner that had Edith and Christian in their tree but, they are unaware of a family connection - The reply was "I did see Mary Ellen's probate living on Byron Street & the Hankinson lived there or nearby for decades. It seems that Mary Ellen's father Evan was from Montgomeryshire, but I think many Jones were."
garstonite
27-03-13, 22:44
Strange that the family move to Garston between 1881 and 1891 and yet Sophia Sacht marries in St Michaels in the Hamlet 1899 - not in St Michaels ,Garston...but 1 year later in 1900 Adelaide DOES marry in St Michaels,Garston ??
and when Carl Sacht is killed at sea on 8th aug 1901 -Mary Ellens address is Byron Street..Coroners report on 29th august ...
Received a reply from the tree owner, she does not have a copy of Evan and Elizabeth's marriage certificate (although it is on her to do list).
Even so, I doubt this would help us prove that this is our Mary Ellen.
I will however keep perservering with trying to rule out all the other Mary Ellen's born around the time of ours. Not knowing her mothers name at least, is the most frustrating part..........
kiterunner
31-03-13, 17:59
Wendy, sorry if this has been answered before, but who were the witnesses at Mary Ellen's marriage?
Anthony and Wilhelmina Po[?a]ppinga. I recall looking into them but for the life of me cannot fing all the documents excpet Wilhelmina in the 1881census - listed as Mimmie or Minnie Poppinga, Servant, aged 37 and listed as widow, born in Hamburg.
I did check out Anthony and he did in fact die between the time of Mary Ellen and Carl marrying, also checked the Poppinga marriage, remember it appeared to be her second.
Could not link them though to Carl or Mary Ellen other than they were not local.
kiterunner
31-03-13, 18:48
If Evan Jones is a labourer on Mary Ellen's marriage cert then that doesn't fit with the Evan we have been looking at since he is a joiner on everything as far as I can remember.
I know:( but holding on barely to the thread of hope that as she was so young she didn't actually remember:o I have been sceptic about this line from the start so it won't stop me from looking into the others:)
kiterunner
31-03-13, 22:47
Just checking the witnesses for the Rigby girls' marriages in case Mary Ellen appears. Witnesses at Elizabeth Day Rigby's marriage were Frederick Burgess and Elizabeth Evans, no help but she got married at Garston, though, so that's a good sign, isn't it? Not found the right Sarah Rigby marriage yet to check her witnesses.
I've also been trying to check the various marriages in this tree for witnesses no luck yet finding a Mary Ellen.
Sarah married a John Jacob 1st we think (although everything does tie up to this being correct), could not find the actual cert but there is a reference to the marriage. What is rather intriguing is she then married Michael Llynskey (also only have reference to the cert) but John Jacob appears to still be alive with a son on one of the census. She then married Frank Damon in 1912 the witnesses Ethel May and Richard Abbott – Ethel May’s maiden name is Fitton and she is Sarah’s sister Elizabeth Rigby’s daughter .
Received a reply from the tree owner, she does not have a copy of Evan and Elizabeth's marriage certificate (although it is on her to do list).
Update - The tree owner has attached Elizabeth Nixon and Evan Jones marriage cert on the tree.
It states:
1849. Marriage solemnized in Wesley Chapel (? Street Toxteth Park) in the district of West Derby in the County of Lancaster.
13.11.1849
- Evan Jones, 36 years, Widower, Joiner, George’s Place Jordan Street Liverpool, Father – Thomas Jones, Joiner
- Elizabeth Nixon, 19 years, Spinster, - , 14 Albert Court Albert Street Toxteth Park, Father – Robert Nixon, Stevidore
Evan signs his name, Elizabeth makes her mark.
Witnesses are William Dingwell and Mary McKittrick
The death certificate has also been added for Elizabeth.
It states:
Registration District – West Derby, 1907 Death in the Sub-district of Wavetree in the Counties of Lancaster & Liverpool.
3 May 1907 Pronounced dead Garston Accident Hospital Garston Liverpool
Elizabeth Day Rigby, Female, 71 years, Widow of William Rigby Dock Labourer 21 Park Street
Syncups Natural Causes, Certificate received from ???? Coroner in Liverpool Inquest held sixth May 1907, 7th day 1901, James Maguire Registrar.
I'm still no further at proving or disproving the link..............will keep at it though.
garstonite
03-05-13, 06:29
I was talking with the Rigby family on Tuesday ...I will pass this info onto them today ...we are very lucky that the mother aged 88 is alive and has all her faculties - she was out shopping with her daughter who is in her 60`s ...so ...fingers crossed - she may be able to advise or help ....
allan PS ...hope you are all keeping well over in SA ......
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