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Anstey Nomad
02-03-13, 18:32
Well, I’m still in as big a mess as ever with the Bodycotes, but now the Bradburys are giving me trouble as well.

My great great grandfather was Samuel Bradbury, born Bedworth Warwickshire c1849 ( no registration found), died Leicester 16 March 1922 (MQ1922 7a 287) aged 73.

His parents were William and Emma Bradbury and it has always been the received wisdom that Emma’s maiden name was Beasley and that this was their marriage, in Bedworth in 1836:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=2445&iid=4290980_00662&fn=William&ln=Bradbury&st=r&ssrc=&pid=4250780

It looks as though William was born in Bedworth in 1814, the son of William and Hannah and died in Leicester in 1890 (MQ 1890 7a 149) at the age of 76.
William and Emma had the customary rake of children:

Elizabeth 1837
Mary 1842
Hannah (Sarah H) 1844
William 1847
Samuel 1849
Eliza 1854
Edward 1857
Emma 1859

There are some gaps there which I haven’t investigated as yet.

All goes swimmingly on the censuses in 1851 and 1861, which is where the details of those children came from. The family is in Leicester Street and then the Grove, Bedworth.

By 1871, they have moved to Leicester:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LEIRG10_3281_3283-0090&fn=William&ln=Bradbury&st=r&ssrc=&pid=24484197

The writing is appalling, and I suspect the whole page has been poorly transcribed, but the remaining children look right, although Edward is now Edwin. It’s everything else that is wrong.

William is now a shoe maker, whereas he was previously a collier, he was apparently born in Rugby, not Bedworth/Foleshill and Emma was again born in Nuneaton, not Bedworth. What concerns me most though is the presence in the household of her father Samuel Smith, aged 69 (so born c1802), place of birth Leicester.

I think I may have found Samuel in 1851, lodging in West Orchard in Coventry with his wife Emma and a one year old daughter Louisa, but otherwise I can’t find him or his wife and daughter with any degree of certainty either before or after 1851.

I also can’t find a Bradbury/Smith marriage that fits the bill.

The television’s awful tonight again – does anyone fancy having a look at this with me?

AN

kiterunner
02-03-13, 18:49
You didn't mention the 1841:
Whites Yard, Bedworth
Bradbury Wm 23 Miner Y
Bradbury Emma 22 Ribn Weaver N
Bradbury Libry 4 Y
Bradbury Hannah 2 Y

So it looks like they had a Hannah who died young who fills in one of those gaps.

kiterunner
02-03-13, 19:17
So I'm guessing you don't have a birth certificate for any of William and Emma's children, giving Emma's maiden name, AN? There are likely registrations in Foleshill for the first Hannah Apr-Jun 1839, Mary Oct-Dec 1841, Sarah Ann Oct-Dec 1843, William Jul-Sep 1846, Eliza Ann Jan-Mar 1854, Edwin Thomas Jul-Sep 1856 and Emma Jan-Mar 1859. None of them coming up on Warwickshire BMD though - I was hoping the MMN might be indexed on there. :(

kiterunner
02-03-13, 19:33
Ancestry has baptisms at Bedworth for:
Libra 26 Feb 1837, Eliza Anne 10 Jun 1855 born 19 Feb 1854, William 11 Jun 1855 born 2 Aug 1846, Samuel 11 Jun 1855 born 21 Jan 1849, Edwin Thomas 16 Nov 1856 born 21 Jul, and Emma 16 Mar 1859 born 16 Mar.

Very weird Eliza Anne being baptised the day before William and Samuel! I wonder if it is a mistake? Anyway, the entry after hers is Alfred, the son of Edwin and Anne Beesley of Bedworth, butcher, born 19 May 1854. Surely Edwin Beesley must be related to Emma? So that marriage must be the right one. Maybe Samuel Smith is a stepfather or it was supposed to say "lodger" on the census.

HarrysMum
02-03-13, 21:56
Now Ms Nomad....you just told me my Bradburys were not your lot and I have Bradburys marrying Beasleys...

In one of my many moving boxes....they's here.

HarrysMum
02-03-13, 22:16
Blimey....I have no idea if mine are in any way connected to yours, but, my lot...


Samuel Bradbury marries Margaret Wells 29th May 1782 St Oswalds Chester

Their son, Samuel marries Margaret Belward 22nd Dec 1807 St Oswalds

Samuel dies sometime prior to 1821 (I hope...lol)

Margaret Bradbury (nee Belward) marries William Beaseley 13th dec 1821, Bath.

kiterunner
02-03-13, 22:53
In 1851 there is an Edwin Beesley age 38 living in Leicester with wife Ann and they have a daughter Emma, among other children. Edwin is a butcher born Rugby Warwickshire. I think we should try to trace him back tomorrow to see if he has a sister called Emma.

Anstey Nomad
05-03-13, 19:50
Sorry chaps, forgot I'd posted this.

Libby - you have a Bradbury x Beasley marriage? How weird is that?

Can't concentrate on this at the moment, Man U have just scored, but will come back to this.

AN