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Can anyone find Mrs Helen Hall of Aldborough? (I have only had the scantiest, unsuccessful, look). Here are the clues (most are ones I wasn't aware of when I started this post!!)
At September 1901 she was dead and at that time she had two living children. Sadly, I don't know which Aldborough she lived in (see below though).
I have her photo. On the album page the caption says Mrs Hall and her two children, but on the reverse of the photo it seems to say (faint pencil) "Mrs Hall. Alace (sic) and Percy Stanhope." I would date the photo perhaps in the 1880s and the children are under 7 years (the girl slightly older than the boy) and Mrs Hall is perhas around 40 or so.
I've also just noticed the photographers details on the photo which say:
Clarke and Son Aldeburgh (so different spelling to above which is in a will). I remember having another confusion over Aldeburgh and Aldborough before, but that was a completely different part of my tree :o
This looks like Helen & Percy (Percival S Hall) in 1881
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1881%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Helen&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Hall&gsln_x=1&rg_81004011__date=&rs_81004011__date=0&81004011__date_x=1&gsbco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsbpl=1%2c+&gsbpl_x=1&gsbst=&gsbst_x=1&gsbCounty=&gsbCity=&gsbTown=&_82004013=&_82004013_x=1&_82004014=&_82004014_x=1&_82004015=&_82004015_x=1&rg_81004021__date=&rs_81004021__date=0&81004021__date_x=1&gsmco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsmpl=1%2c+&gsmpl_x=1&gsmst=&gsmst_x=1&gsmCounty=&gsmCity=&gsmTown=&_82004023=&_82004023_x=1&_82004024=&_82004024_x=1&_82004025=&_82004025_x=1&rg_81004031__date=&rs_81004031__date=0&81004031__date_x=1&gsdco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsdpl=1%2c+&gsdpl_x=1&gsdst=&gsdst_x=1&gsdCounty=&gsdCity=&gsdTown=&_82004033=&_82004033_x=1&_82004034=&_82004034_x=1&_82004035=&_82004035_x=1&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&gs1pl_x=1&gs1st=&gs1st_x=1&gs1County=&gs1County_x=1&gs1City=&gs1City_x=1&gs1Town=&gs1Town_x=1&gskw=Aldeburgh&gskw_x=1&_8000C002=&_8000C002_x=1&_8000C003=&_8000C003_x=1&_80008002=&_80008002_x=1&_80008003=&_80008003_x=1&_80018002=&_80018003_x=1&_80018003=&_80018002_x=1&sbo=1&sbor=&prox=1&UseAdvRQuery=1&AdvSrch=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=20179402&recoff=
Also Helen and Alice in 1891
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1891%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Helen&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Hall&gsln_x=1&rg_81004011__date=&rs_81004011__date=0&81004011__date_x=1&gsbco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsbpl=1%2c+&gsbpl_x=1&gsbst=&gsbst_x=1&gsbCounty=&gsbCity=&gsbTown=&_82004013=&_82004013_x=1&_82004014=&_82004014_x=1&_82004015=&_82004015_x=1&rg_81004021__date=&rs_81004021__date=0&81004021__date_x=1&gsmco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsmpl=1%2c+&gsmpl_x=1&gsmst=&gsmst_x=1&gsmCounty=&gsmCity=&gsmTown=&_82004023=&_82004023_x=1&_82004024=&_82004024_x=1&_82004025=&_82004025_x=1&rg_81004031__date=&rs_81004031__date=0&81004031__date_x=1&gsdco=1%2cAll+Countries&gsdpl=1%2c+&gsdpl_x=1&gsdst=&gsdst_x=1&gsdCounty=&gsdCity=&gsdTown=&_82004033=&_82004033_x=1&_82004034=&_82004034_x=1&_82004035=&_82004035_x=1&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&gs1pl_x=1&gs1st=&gs1st_x=1&gs1County=&gs1County_x=1&gs1City=&gs1City_x=1&gs1Town=&gs1Town_x=1&gskw=Aldeburgh&gskw_x=1&_8000C002=&_8000C002_x=1&_8000C003=&_8000C003_x=1&_80008002=&_80008002_x=1&_80008003=&_80008003_x=1&_80018002=&_80018003_x=1&_80018003=&_80018002_x=1&sbo=1&sbor=&prox=1&UseAdvRQuery=1&AdvSrch=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=22432109&recoff=
Oh, this makes more sense!
Name: Percival Stanhope Hall
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1879
Registration district: Plomesgate
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 774
Alice with her father in 1901
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&h=10240216&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=6598
Thanks Jay! I had concentrated on Aldborough in Yorkshire and Norfolk, not Aldeburgh in Suffolk! lol
Deaths Dec 1892
Hall Helen Key 50 Marylebone 1a 360
Admon of Helen Key Hall in 1892
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=UKProbateCal%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Helen+key&gsln=Hall&sx=&gs1co=3251%2cEngland&gs1pl=1%2cAll+Counties&year=&yearend=&sbo=1&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=36&fh=0&h=3070531&recoff=
Marriages Jun 1878
HALL William Henry P Plomesgate 4a 998
Purvis Helen Key Plomesgate 4a 998
So, she is a Purvis, which meand more work for me! I wonder what the P stands for in her husband's name?!!
On the Admon he's only down as William Henry Hall.
There's a Helen Rey Parvis, which someone had corrected to Purvis on the London baptisms, in 1840, parents James & Jane.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=LMAbirths%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Helen+&gsln=Purvis&sx=&gs1co=3251%2cEngland&gs1pl=1%2cAll+Counties&year=&yearend=&sbo=1&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=5250865&recoff=21+23
The baptism ties in with the birth reg of Helen Key Purvis Dec 1840 Stepney.
There's a Helen Rey Parvis, which someone had corrected to Purvis on the London baptisms, in 1840, parents James & Jane.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=LMAbirths%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Helen+&gsln=Purvis&sx=&gs1co=3251%2cEngland&gs1pl=1%2cAll+Counties&year=&yearend=&sbo=1&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=5250865&recoff=21+23
The baptism ties in with the birth reg of Helen Key Purvis Dec 1840 Stepney.
Yes, that's her and now I know who she is thanks! I'll put up the photo when I've scanned it. I'm amazed Percy is three years older than Alice!
Thanks for your help, Jay :)
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