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ElizabethHerts
21-12-12, 07:42
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Margaret Forbes

Date and place of birth
unknown - Scotland?
c. 1740

Names of parents
unknown

Date and place of baptism
unknown

Details of her marriage
Keith Catto
31st March 1761 at St Mary’s Portsea, Hampshire

Children
James 10 May 1761 Portsea St Mary
Alexander 11 Nov 1764 Gosport
Edward 2 Feb 1766 Gosport
Jane 4 Jan 1769 Gosport
Thomas 20 May 1770 Gosport
Betsy 1 Nov 1772 Gosport
Mary 26 Dec 1773 Gosport
Elizabeth 10 Mar 1776 Gosport
Nancy 21 Dec 1777 Gosport
Keith 13 Aug 1779 Gosport

Occupation(s)
-

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) times!).
Portsea, Hampshire
Gosport, Hampshire

I have always thought from her name and her husband's name that they were a Scottish family.

Date, place and cause of death
April 1792, probably Gosport, no details known

Date and place of burial
26th April 1792 Holy Trinity, Gosport


Details of will / administration of their estate
No will, but her husband left one.

Memorial inscription
unknown

link to Jane Smith (maiden name Catto), my MMMMMM:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ght=Jane+Smith

link to her husband, Keith Catto:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16385

kiterunner
23-12-12, 14:52
Do you have the names of the marriage witnesses, Elizabeth?

ElizabethHerts
23-12-12, 17:10
Do you have the names of the marriage witnesses, Elizabeth?

I don't know, Kate. Off to look. :)

ElizabethHerts
23-12-12, 17:17
I've just checked and I have not details about the marriage of Keith and Margaret except the date and church. :(

ElizabethHerts
02-01-15, 17:50
Interesting -

Name: Margaret Forbes
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Dec 1740
Christening Place: , KIRKMICHAEL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Alexander Forbes
Mother's Name: Christan Key
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11370-2
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1040121
Reference ID: 2:17T33N5

First name(s) MARGARET
Last name FORBES
Birth year 1738
Birth day 13
Birth month Jan
Baptism year 1738
Baptism day 22
Baptism month Jan
Parish St Martin In The Fields
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Mother's first name(s) Christian
County Middlesex
Page -
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Is this the same couple? Are they Margaret's parents.

Her second son with Keith Catto was Alexander and the name continued down the line.

I'm trying to remember Scottish naming patterns...

Olde Crone
02-01-15, 17:59
Elizabeth

I'm not sure if we've had this conversation before, but I have Forbes/Catto in my tree (not yours Forbes/Catto though) and the surname Catto is a shortened version of Cattenach/Cattanach.

OC

ElizabethHerts
02-01-15, 18:20
OC, I remember that so when searching in Scotland I bear it in mind. I still find Scottish research the most difficult. I went about 4/5 years ago with my now son-in-law to "Who do you think you are?" at Olympia and attended the Scotland's People talk. They promised subscriptions, which still haven't materialised. I just can't put any flesh on the bones of many of my Scottish ancestors.

Olde Crone
02-01-15, 22:48
Elizabeth

I found it very easy to do the Scottish BMDs and census, but almost impossible to put any flesh on the bones, as you say.

OC

Macbev
03-01-15, 07:54
Her second son with Keith Catto was Alexander and the name continued down the line.
I'm trying to remember Scottish naming patterns...

Not infallible....but frequently followed in my Scots/ Irish families

1st son=father's father
2nd son=mother's father
3rd son=father
4th and successive sons....named for brothers, favourite uncles etc

1st daughter=mother's mother
2nd daughter=father's mother
3rd daughter= mother4th and successive daughters named for aunts etc

If a child died in infancy, often the same name will be reused, which can appear to throw the sequence out. For years, OH's family followed an Archibald/John pattern, with one son per generation. I was looking in quite the wrong direction before I discovered the last known Archibald was actually a second son and I should have been looking for a Peter as his grandfather :( Archibald was his maternal grandfather's name :(

ElizabethHerts
03-01-15, 08:17
Thanks, Bev. So it looks as though Margaret's father was probably Alexander Forbes.

Interestingly there is a PCC 1707 will for an Alexander Forbes at Portsmouth and he has a son Alexander. He is in the Army.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/5111/40611_310718-00264/860300?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk% 2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3dCanturburyPreroga tiveCourt%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26gss%3d angs-d%26gsfn%3dAlexander%26gsln%3dForbes%26gskw%3dBeck hampton%26uidh%3dxt1%26pcat%3d36%26fh%3d0%26h%3d86 0300%26recoff%3d7%2b8%2b19%2b20%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord