Help with reading name please

[vallee]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=STSRG10_2925_2927-0203&fn=Mira&ln=Nicholls&st=r&ssrc=pt_t6737403_p6875858536_kpidz0q3d6875858536z0 q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&pid=15006260

is this Mira Nichols and if so can anybody find her Birth or her after 1871 thanks

[Phoenix]

There's a birth of a Myra Nicholls in 1868.

[vallee]

is there Phoenix I couldnt find it on FMP thanks for that

[JBee]

There's a marriage for a Myra Nicholls in Walsall in Dec qtr 1903 to

either

Alexander Thomas Anson

or

Herbert James H Murchison

[Phoenix]

Scrub that - it looks as if she died aged 2. And it's Dudley, not Walsall. It looks as if someone in Dudley RD was trying desparately for a baby Myra.

[kiterunner]

Herbert Murchison has a wife Minnie in 1911, so Myra must have married Alexander Anson. I haven't managed to find that couple in 1911 yet to see whether it is the same Myra.

[kiterunner]

But, there is a Myra Nicholls born Tipton Staffs age 27 living in Walsall on the 1901 census, with a mother Hannah, and I'm guessing that this one is likely to be the one who got married in Walsall in 1903. I haven't managed to find anything about the one born 1867-8 yet.

[vallee]

thanks everybody still not found her past 1871 did find that birth though thanks again,

[kiterunner]

There is a Sophia Mirabella Nicholls birth registered Oct-Dec 1867 in Walsall. In 1901 she is in Llanrhos, Caernarvonshire, Wales, and gets married to a John Johnson in Llandudno, Caernarvonshire, in 1909. Unfortunately FamilySearch doesn't show her father's name on the marriage transcription.

Oh, never mind - I've found Sophia on the 1891 English census and her mother is Ellen. Back to the drawing board...

[vallee]

thanks for trying Kite , I'm off to bed in a minute will have another look tomorrow, night

[Merry]

There is a Sophia Mirabella Nicholls birth registered Oct-Dec 1867 in Walsall. In 1901 she is in Llanrhos, Caernarvonshire, Wales, and gets married to a John Johnson in Llandudno, Caernarvonshire, in 1909. Unfortunately FamilySearch doesn't show her father's name on the marriage transcription.

Oh, never mind - I've found Sophia on the 1891 English census and her mother is Ellen. Back to the drawing board...

Not necessarily!! Ellen was widowed in Q2 1870 and in 1871 she has seven children with her, including Sophia and two younger ones and was recorded as a shopkeeper, so she had her work cut out. The fact that she apparently has Sophia Mirabella with her at this time should exclude the child from being the same one as the "dau" with Isaiah and Ann Nichols, and yet..........

Ellen had been married to William Nichols (poss Ellen Keeling m 1857 Walsall district), engine fitter (same occ as Isaiah) and according to the 1861 census William was born about 1836/7 at Bloxwich, Staffs. In 1851 Isaiah (a widower at that time) has a son, William b abt 1836/7 Shelfield Staffs which is the same area, so it seems likely Isaiah was the grandfather of Sophia Mirabella. I wonder if she is listed twice in 1871, once with her mother and once (as daughter!) with her grandfather and step-grandmother?

[Phoenix]

I like the theory! Although it is certainly not impossible for her to be his daughter, she is very much younger than Mary Ann in Isaiah's household in 1871 and indeed I had to check the image to make sure it did not say granddaughter.

[vallee]

oh dear am totally confused now ? are we saying Mira is Sophia Mirabella and the daughter of Isaiahs son William ? thanks

[kiterunner]

That's what we're thinking, Vallee.

[vallee]

thanks Kite and all am investigating further now