Herbert Massey Fisher - Australia?

[ElizabethHerts]

My OH had a relative who married this chap in 1932 at Kingston.

He died in 1946 in Devon and his will is in the probate calendar. It says the will was re-sealed at Adelaide. I wondered if he was Australian as the lady travelled over there.

I have found a link about a possible earlier marriage:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.heraldry/2009-01/msg00054.html

Can any of the downunderers find out any more about him, please?

[ElizabethHerts]

I've found this tantalising snippet but can't view any more:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Herbert+Massey+Fisher%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1

[ElizabethHerts]

I've found the marriage allegation for Herbert Massey Fisher's marriage to Delorias Jeannie Valburga (short name!):

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2056&iid=32515_606246_0095-00108&fn=Carbonnia+Delorias+Jannie+Valburga+Voyce+Comtes se&ln=Comtesse&st=r&ssrc=&pid=539031

[kiterunner]

On the 1891 census they are at Frida Villa, Trewsbury Rd, Sydenham, London, and he is age 33, a dressing bag maker assistant born Willesden, Middlesex, and she is age 37, born Spain British subject. One servant.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Kate.

They seem to have gone to SA after that.

I have found this:

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/sa/renmarkparinga/renmarkolddata.htm

This ties in with the link where it said that Delorias died in 1929. Then Herbert remarried in 1932.

I wonder if the other Fishers are theirs.

[kiterunner]

And her death is listed on the Australia death index on ancestry - Deloras Voyce Carbonnia Fisher, South Australia, 1926-1930.

[ElizabethHerts]

Oooh, thanks, Kate. I've never searched Ancestry for Australian records.

[ElizabethHerts]

Everyone seems to have problems with her name!

[kiterunner]

There is a Herbert Fisher arriving at London from Australia Jul 1930, retired dairy farmer age 72. (On the UK Incoming Passenger Lists)

[kiterunner]

There are a Mr H M Fisher and Mrs Fisher travelling from London to Sydney in Oct 1911, on the "Moldavia", not much info shown on FMP but he is English and she is "British Colonial".

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks again!

Herbert is leaving for Adelaide on 27 Oct 1932 with Miss Nora Newton. Had they just married?? They got married in Dec qr 1932 at Kingston!
(FMP)

[kiterunner]

Sorry, just realised from that Google snippet thing that he first went to Australia some time soon after the 1891 census, but I can't find that trip on the passenger lists at the moment.

[ElizabethHerts]

Herbert and Nora are coming in again from Brisbane in 1935:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1518&iid=30807_A001060-00219&fn=Nora&ln=Fisher&st=r&ssrc=&pid=23639025

[kiterunner]

Elizabeth, have a look for Herbert Massey Fisher on Trove (Australian historical newspapers) - there are a few matches.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

[ElizabethHerts]

Wow, thanks, Kate.

[ElizabethHerts]

It mentions the Barnado link!:D
Abigail Amalia Barnardo was Nora's grandmother. Thomas Barnardo was Abigail's half-brother.

[kiterunner]

For instance, the Adelaide Advertiser 15 Mar 1935 says he was a pioneer fruitgrower of Renmark, who first arrived in Renmark in 1899 from London with his wife who was the Countess de Viesca. Shortly after her death in 1929 he left for London and stayed there for three years, and while he was there he married a niece of Dr Barnardo (your rellie, Elizabeth?)

Edit - snap!

[ElizabethHerts]

This is OH's family.

OH's great-grandfather George Herbert Newton had a brother called Edward Buckley Newton who married Sophie Elizabeth Fullwood, daughter of William and Abigail Amalia Fullwood (maiden name Barnardo). Edward died less than 10 years after his marriage and his widow went back to Ireland (Cork) and re-married. Nora was the third child of Edward Buckley Newton.