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Muggins in Sussex
25-11-12, 10:54
I have found Oscar's birth in March 1892

Here he is in 1911 - http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_06286_0431_03/43136411?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d0%26ms T%3d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26gsfn%3doscar%26gsln%3dBeeston%26msbdy%3d1892%2 6sbo%3d0%26uidh%3dnn3%26ti%3d5538%26pcat%3dROOT_CA TEGORY%26h%3d43136411%26db%3d1911England%26indiv%3 d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord
Class: RG14; Piece: 6286; Schedule Number: 214

where he is described as "grandson" - what I am trying to work out, without buying a cert, is who his parents were. At first I thought it might be the Walter William in 1911 who is listed as "son", but I don't think that can be right.

Do you think that the Frederick O Beeston in 1901, could be him?
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7814&iid=HAMRG13_1102_1104-0122&fn=Frederick+O&ln=Beeston&st=r&ssrc=&pid=1309255
Class: RG13; Piece: 1102; Folio: 60; Page: 3

Thanks

ElizabethHerts
25-11-12, 11:05
It looks likely, Joan.

Here is Ann Beeston mum in 1891:

BEESTON, Frederick Oscar Head Married M 29 1862 Carpenter Basingstoke, Hampshire
BEESTON, Ann Wife Married F 30 1861 Shepton Mallet, Somersetshire
BEESTON, Ethel May Daughter F 3 1888 Hook, Hampshire
BEESTON, Ada Emily Daughter F 2 1889

The father is Frederick Oscar, so looks good.

ElizabethHerts
25-11-12, 11:16
I forgot to put the reference:

1891 Census
BEESTON, Ann
HARTLEY WINTNEY, Hampshire
RG12 piece 953 folio 41 page 9

Muggins in Sussex
25-11-12, 11:17
Oooh thank you Elizabeth - yes it does look good :)

I also found his probate record and when he died in 1966 he left £6963.00

I guess that was quite a lot of money :confused:

And why would probate have been granted to Lloyds Bank - does that mean the bank would have been the executors of the will?

ElizabethHerts
25-11-12, 11:19
1881:

BEESTON, Frederick Head Married M 45 1836 Wheelwright & Smith Blackwater, Hampshire
BEESTON, Ellen Wife Married F 48 1833 Rotherwick, Hampshire
BEESTON, Ellen Daughter Single F 20 1861 Drapers Assistant Basingstoke, Hampshire
BEESTON, Frederick Oscar Son Single M 19 1862 Wheelwright Basingstoke, Hampshire
BEESTON, George Edmund Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Basingstoke, Hampshire
BEESTON, Walter William Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Nateley Scures, Hampshire

1881 Census
BEESTON, Frederick Oscar
BASINGSTOKE, Hampshire
RG11 piece 1255 folio 78 page 10

You will see that Edmund is used as a second name for George.

ElizabethHerts
25-11-12, 11:26
This is Dad's death:

Name: BEESTON, Frederick Oscar
Registration district: Hartley Wintney
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1899
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:37
Volume no: 2C
Page no: 129

ElizabethHerts
25-11-12, 11:27
Grandfather Frederick's will is on the Probate Calender in 1925.

He names George Edmund Beeston and Walter William Beeston.

Muggins in Sussex
25-11-12, 11:31
Many many thanks for all your help Elizabeth :) - you are so quick! I'd been looking for ages :o - but my excuse is I'm not really used to going that far back :d

I've got loads to look at now - thanks again :)

Margaret in Burton
25-11-12, 12:46
Oooh thank you Elizabeth - yes it does look good :)

I also found his probate record and when he died in 1966 he left £6963.00

I guess that was quite a lot of money :confused:

And why would probate have been granted to Lloyds Bank - does that mean the bank would have been the executors of the will?

Yes quite likely.

Muggins in Sussex
25-11-12, 16:13
Yes quite likely.

Thanks Marg :)

Oscar's wife, Nora Scrutton, was one of the many sisters of Dorothy Scrutton, who I think was my maternal grandmother.

Nora and Dorothy were in service together at the home of the Chilean born Katharine Macandrew

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_06218_0121_03/43081364?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911england%26h%3d43081364%26 ti%3d5538%26indiv%3dtry%26gss%3dpt%26ssrc%3dpt_t45 875_p-2138519419_kpidz0q3d-2138519419z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&ssrc=pt_t45875_p-2138519419_kpidz0q3d-2138519419z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&backlabel=ReturnRecord

I believe that Katharine left/gave money to Dorothy, and suspect she may have also left some to Nora.

If I have found the right record, then Katharine Macandrew died in 1941 leaving the sum of £16578.18s ( I don't know whether the National Probate Calendar shows all the beneficiaries, or just the main ones :confused:)

I think I should get a copy of the will

Margaret in Burton
26-11-12, 15:09
Thanks Marg :)

Oscar's wife, Nora Scrutton, was one of the many sisters of Dorothy Scrutton, who I think was my maternal grandmother.

Nora and Dorothy were in service together at the home of the Chilean born Katharine Macandrew

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_06218_0121_03/43081364?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911england%26h%3d43081364%26 ti%3d5538%26indiv%3dtry%26gss%3dpt%26ssrc%3dpt_t45 875_p-2138519419_kpidz0q3d-2138519419z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&ssrc=pt_t45875_p-2138519419_kpidz0q3d-2138519419z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&backlabel=ReturnRecord

I believe that Katharine left/gave money to Dorothy, and suspect she may have also left some to Nora.

If I have found the right record, then Katharine Macandrew died in 1941 leaving the sum of £16578.18s ( I don't know whether the National Probate Calendar shows all the beneficiaries, or just the main ones :confused:)

I think I should get a copy of the will

Definitely

ElizabethHerts
26-11-12, 15:17
Here are the details, Joan:

MACANDREW KATHARINE of Hedingham Polstead-street Stoke-by-Nayland Suffolk Spinster died 27 August 1941 Probate Llandudno 30 October to Rodway Stephens Chartered Accountant and Eleanor Blomfield widow. Effects £16576 18s.

Muggins in Sussex
26-11-12, 18:12
Thanks Marg and Elizabeth

Elizabeth, yes that's the record I was looking at :)

In 1891 Katharine and her family were living next door to the Scruttons (who were farmers) in Great Horkesley- although Dorothy & Nora were not yet born -so I'm finding it all quite intriguing

Uncle John
29-11-12, 13:50
To go back a few posts, the National Probate Calendar lists executors, not beneficiaries.

Muggins in Sussex
30-11-12, 06:14
Thanks UJ - I hadn't realised that :o - though I guess beneficiaries & executors are often the same people.

I've never sent for a will before, so any tips would be gratefullly received - it looks as though it's cheapest to apply to York, although not necessarily the fastest way.

Margaret in Burton
30-11-12, 08:19
Thanks UJ - I hadn't realised that :o - though I guess beneficiaries & executors are often the same people.

I've never sent for a will before, so any tips would be gratefullly received - it looks as though it's cheapest to apply to York, although not necessarily the fastest way.

Joan

You can apply to any probate office and it's £6 wherever you apply to. I'll email you a copy of the form.

Muggins in Sussex
01-12-12, 14:15
Thanks Marg :) :):):)