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vallee
10-10-12, 19:15
Wonder if anybody can figure out who's children these two girls were.

George John TYLER born 1809 Shoreditch marries a
Sheba MILLER born 1801 Woodham Ferrers Essex, in 1831 Spitalfields

in 1841
George and Sheba are with
George Arthur TYLER born 1834
Sarah TYLER born 1837
James TYLER born 1840

PLUS
Emma TYLER born abt 1823 ???
Isabella TYLER born abt 1827 ??? both born out of county in 1841
I cannot find a Baptism for them nor a marriage or death

any ideas thanks


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=view&r=an&dbid=8978&iid=MDXHO107_724_725-0524&fn=George&ln=Tyler&st=r&ssrc=pt_t6737403_p-179487596_kpidz0q3d-179487596z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=15418669
Olde Crone
10-10-12, 19:19
Vallee

I don't subscribe to Ancestry, so I can't see your link, but maybe they are the brother and sister of George 1809?

OC
vallee
10-10-12, 19:26
I hadn't thought of that OC what a plonker I am shall see what I can find ? Thanks
Shona
10-10-12, 19:42
The household also includes George Tyler, 77. Not born in county.

Emma and Isabella could easily be sisters to George junior.
Shona
10-10-12, 19:43
Emma and Isabella aren't with George and Sheba in 1851.
vallee
10-10-12, 20:00
thanks Shona I cannot find them at all after 1841 , have been looking for George's siblings and so far only found a William a Jane and a Charles ,no Isabella or Emma.
Phoenix
10-10-12, 20:12
My guess would be that they were Sheba's children from before her marriage and that they married or died as Miller.
Phoenix
10-10-12, 22:43
No particular help, but the witnesses to the marriage were friends of George: James Moss & Ann Ward, widow married, with George as a witness.
Phoenix
10-10-12, 22:52
Ahha

William Ward widow married Ann MILLER and a witness was Sheba Miller. Spitalfields 1817.
vallee
10-10-12, 22:59
oh thanks a lot Mary did you find that marriage on Ancestry ?
Phoenix
10-10-12, 23:22
If you mean me, Vallee, yes, both of them are on Ancestry. I assume it must be the same Ann throughout, but you'd need to print them out or play around to compare the signatures.
Phoenix
10-10-12, 23:58
A William Owen Tucker (solicitor) & Sheba have a daughter Isabella.

She marries from 8 Foster St St Botolphs in 1850. George and Sheba were living in Foster Street in 1841.

I note that William Owen Tucker's wife appears to be called Matilda.

I may, of course, be maligning everyone:d
Phoenix
11-10-12, 00:00
Hmm, having checked where Sheba was living in 1851 (8 Foster Street) I might be right:D:D
Phoenix
11-10-12, 00:11
And this, I think, is Emma's marriage:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31281_A101356-00082&fn=Emma&ln=Tucker&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1522159
Phoenix
11-10-12, 00:36
Hmm, William Owen Tucker, SOLICITOR, died without leaving a will. I wonder if he left a will, and the sons prudently destroyed it? He certainly appears to have had plenty of children!
vallee
11-10-12, 11:57
wow Phoenix cant thank you enough you have been busy so their surname was Tucker not Tyler? off to sort them out thanks again
Shona
11-10-12, 12:53
On Ancestry, I can see the following births recorded for William Owen Tucker and Sheba Tucker:

Mary Ann: 10 June 1821
William: 26 August 1929
Isabella: 26 August 1829

William Owen Tucker Esq, married Matilda Elizabeth Malpas on 25 March 1826.
Phoenix
11-10-12, 13:00
In 1829 he (or she!) is glossing over his occupation.

It looks as if Sheba finished with him after she married but there's another poor mite who died as a baby in the early 1830s who he fathered on yet another woman.
Shona
11-10-12, 14:31
In 1829 he (or she!) is glossing over his occupation.

It looks as if Sheba finished with him after she married but there's another poor mite who died as a baby in the early 1830s who he fathered on yet another woman.

Good grief! And these are the ones we know about...
Shona
11-10-12, 14:33
Hmm, William Owen Tucker, SOLICITOR, died without leaving a will. I wonder if he left a will, and the sons prudently destroyed it? He certainly appears to have had plenty of children!

He died in 1865 with effects of less than £300 (child maintenance?). Letters of administration to son and next of kin, Joseph, stock jobber.
vallee
11-10-12, 15:29
thank you both so much wonder if he was good looking ??? he also had two children by a Sarah Elizabeth busy bee wasn't he ? did you fnd that probate record on Ancestry Shona ?
Shona
11-10-12, 15:34
thank you both so much wonder if he was good looking ??? he also had two children by a Sarah Elizabeth busy bee wasn't he ? did you fnd that probate record on Ancestry Shona ?Yes, it is on Ancestry. I'm not a will expert - the records on ancestry refers to 'administration'.
Shona
11-10-12, 15:36
The reference to child maintenance was purely mine - that's not on Ancestry.
vallee
11-10-12, 15:56
oh I guessed that Shona I meant the probate record thanks again have found it now.