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Glen TK
16-09-12, 18:53
I thought it's about time I looked into my 3rd great grandfather John Harrison.

Not that I have much to go on but here goes;

1823
27 Nov 1823 at St. Nicholas, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, marriage of John Harrison to Rebecca Thorben (alt spelling is Thorbon)

1826
baptism record sourced at the Norfolk Records Office for Elizabeth Harrison 22/08/1826 at Heacham,daughter of John Harrison and Rebekah late Thorbon

1841
1841 census, Heacham
John Harrison age 50, farmer, born in county
Rebecca Harrison age 55, born in county (now known to have been baptised in 1782
William Thorbon, age 40, foreign parts.

1851
Marriage of the daughter Elizabeth to George Elmer 10 Mar 1851, Parish Church, Great Dunham, Norfolk. The certificate states John is a publican and he is not recorded as deceased.

1851 census Rebecca is recorded in the 1851 census as head but married,and the innkeeper of the Flowerpot Inn, Geat Dunham. As yet John has not been found.

So in a nutshell I have a farmer/publican, born Norfolk c1790 named John Harrison, anything else will be a huge bonus.
kiterunner
16-09-12, 19:08
The marriage is image no 105 of the Lynn St Nicholas PR marriages 1813-1828 on FamilySearch: John Harrison, bachelor of the parish of Heacham and Rebecca Thorben spinster of this parish were married in this chapel by licence 27th Nov 1823, witnesses George Codling (or Godling?), Maria Carter, Chas Rust.

So - there might be some info available about the marriage licence.
Olde Crone
16-09-12, 19:36
Mmmmm - Rebecca was 41 at marriage. It says "late Thorbon" on the bap register, even though she claims to be a spinster at marriage. I would be suspecting that she had been previously married. Are you absolutely positive the 1782 baptism is her?

OC
Phoenix
16-09-12, 19:40
That will (almost!) certainly be Codling - a Norfolk surname.

Marriage Licences are also on Family Search, so provided you know which court they are findable. But they are in complete disarray - in neither date nor alpha sequence, so you need a super-fast connection to trawl through them. Also, they rarely provide much info that late.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 19:41
Mmmmm - Rebecca was 41 at marriage. It says "late Thorbon" on the bap register, even though she claims to be a spinster at marriage. I would be suspecting that she had been previously married. Are you absolutely positive the 1782 baptism is her?

OC

I would be - that is the style used in Norfolk for baptisms of the period.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 19:49
http://www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/norfolkg/gtdunham/gtdufp.htm

List of publicans of the Flower Pot
Glen TK
16-09-12, 20:21
http://www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/norfolkg/gtdunham/gtdufp.htm

List of publicans of the Flower Pot

I have that, from '51-58 allegedly. Seems s-i-l George took on the title of publican for his marriage, his family were farmers and he had worked as a farm bailiff.

I'm just not sure where to head with John, it's not exactly a rare name to start with.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 20:22
Rebecca is buried 9 September 1860 aged 72 (image 33 of the burials)

Do you have her death certificate to see whether she is described as wife or widow?

Scrub that - that's a Hubbard!
Phoenix
16-09-12, 20:23
John might appear in directories, but as he probably was a tenant farmer he may not be listed in early ones.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 20:36
In 1846 he is still in Heacham:

http://www.norfolksources.norfolk.gov.uk/DserveNS/index.htm

Tick directories pre 1851, Heacham in search box, image 66 of 68.
Glen TK
16-09-12, 20:41
Dec 6th 1823 Norfolk Chronicle

Mr. John Harrison, farmer, of Heacham, to Miss Rebecca Thurbon, of Gaywood. Saturday last, at Wells, Mr. C. Pinchin to Mrs. Snubs, both of Clay. Sunday last, ...



Looking through my notes I don't have a death for Rebecca as yet
Glen TK
16-09-12, 20:48
Maybe the death of Rebecca?

Deaths Jun 1863 (>99%)
HARRISON Rebecca Downham 4b 272

So many options for John and nothing to narrow it down in the newspaper archives as yet.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 21:13
If Caroline is still saying she is married in 1861, it implies that either John has abandoned her (stepped on a boat and gone up to Sunderland or down to London) or possibly he is in the workhouse/asylum languishing under initials?
kiterunner
16-09-12, 22:13
There is this one in 1851 but with wife and children:

Le Strange Arms Inn, Hunstanton, Norfolk
John Harrison Head Mar 57 Inn Keeper & Farmer 140 Acres Employing 3 Labs Norfolk Hunstanton
Elenor Do Wife Mar 56 Farmer's Wife Do Stoke
Thomas Do Son U 24 Farmer's Son Do Hunstanton
Jemima Do Daur U 23 Farmer's Daur Do Hunstanton
Maria Do Daur U 16 Farmer's Daur Do Hunstanton
Hanah Do Servant U 23 House Servant Do Hunstanton.


But this John is with this family in Hunstanton in 1841 as well. Also there is a likely marriage for him to Eleanor in King's Lynn 17 Sep 1823 so I guess it isn't the same person as yours.
Phoenix
16-09-12, 22:39
Was someone upset at his marriage:
MARKET-PLACE, Oct. 11
“... oath of John Harrison, of Heacham, with wilfully, maliciously, and unlawfully shooting at him the said John Harrison, whilst in his ...

Sat 11 Oct 1823, Norfolk Chronicle, Norfolk, England
Glen TK
16-09-12, 23:04
Ooh, just downloaded the page,

Wm Herring, charged on the oath of John Harrison..........with intent to murder, maim, disfigure or disable



Shotgun marriage maybe?
tinkerbe
18-09-12, 20:42
Have a hunt on this site you might find something
http://www.kingslynn-forums.co.uk/

this place is right next door to st Nicholas and could help you
http://www.truesyard.co.uk/