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I need some geographical help !
Could Stockport Lancashire, Stockport Cheshire and Stockport Derbyshire be the same place ?
I have tried looking for maps of England which show the county borders with no success.
Maria Ollerenshaw gave her birthplace as Stockport Lancashire in the 1851 census, but I have had no luck in finding her baptism until I noticed one in Stockport Derbyshire, which looks close to Manchester where she lived.
An identically dated baptism is listed as "Former Mill Brow Independent, Marble Bridge, Derbyshire"
Any geographical opinions welcomed
Diane
in Sunny Sydney
Breckland Jane
01-09-12, 06:29
It appears that Marple Bridge, Stockport was originally in Derbyshire but then changed to Cheshire, now part of Greater Manchester.
These links, I think, explain the changes.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Marple/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marple_Bridge
ElizabethHerts
01-09-12, 06:30
Looking at Google maps and Genuki I have come to the conclusion that they are most probably the same place, Diane.
Stockport is given as being in Cheshire on Genuki, but it is close to the boundaries of Derbyshire and Lancashire.
It's the same place, Diane!
Here is a map of Cheshire pre-1974 (when a great number of county boundary changes took place in Britain)
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/cheshire-towns1.html
1845 map of Stockport:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/1903004241/ref=dp_image_text_0/275-2383162-7558669?ie=UTF8&n=266239&s=books
Thank you all, it seems like I might be on the right track then.
I was thinking I am glad Australia does not change its boundaries, but then we do - electoral ones and council ones, but not our mahor state ones.
Now I just have to find where Maria's first husband was born, if not in Manchester as the census records, and if they ever really were married (she married a second time under her maiden name, so I am a bit suspicous about it).
Diane
kiterunner
01-09-12, 10:17
I was thinking I am glad Australia does not change its boundaries, but then we do - electoral ones and council ones, but not our mahor state ones.
Er... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Australia
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Marple Bridge (not Marble Bridge) was in all of those counties. The village was in the parish of Glossop in Derbyshire until 1866. It's now a commuter village to the south east of Greater Manchester. Derbyshire lies to the east. To the south and west are a number of Stockport parishes. Most of Stockport itself was within the Cheshire. However a small part, north of the River Mersey, was in Lancashire.
Er... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Australia
!!!
Well not lately !!
garstonite
02-09-12, 08:57
My grandmother came from Broadbottom and her family were from Mottram and Glossop...same problem with these 3 villages ...Cheshire /Derbyshire ..
allan
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