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Margaret in Burton
17-08-12, 13:09
Name - "official" name and what they were known as

Joseph Smith

Date and place of birth

Unknown

Names of parents

Unknown

Date and place of baptism - if applicable

Unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any

Lucy (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=15643)

Occupation(s) - if any

Coal Carrier (from his daughters marriage cert)

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).

Hinckley, Leicestershire (daughter born there)

Date, place and cause of death

Unknown

Date and place of burial.

Unknown

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable

Unknown

Memorial inscription - if any

Unknown

Link to daughter: Ann Smith (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7111)

kiterunner
20-08-12, 13:45
FamilySearch has a baptism for an Ann Smith 20 Sep 1821 at Hinckley, parents Joseph and Elizabeth, in addition to those 1818 baptisms mentioned in the Ann Smith thread (the 1821 one is mentioned there too but not the mother's name). So that one is another possible.

kiterunner
20-08-12, 13:49
Other children of Joseph and Elizabeth (if it is the same couple all the way through, of course):
Joseph 1816
Elizabeth 1819
Samuel baptised same date as Ann in 1821 and died the same year.

I suppose we really need to see the baptism register and see the occupations to have any chance of finding the right one, though.

kiterunner
20-08-12, 13:59
Right, just realised they are on FreeREG with occupations:
18 Dec 1814 - Ann, d of Joseph & Lucy, labourer
16 Jun 1818 - Ann, d of Joseph & Lucy, labourer
10 Aug 1818 - Ann, d of Joseph & Sarah, FWK
20 Sep 1821 - Ann, d of Joseph & Elizabeth, FWK.

I think it is more likely for a labourer to become a coal carrier than for a FWK, what do you think? (Edit - oh, except that your Ann is a FWK?) I'll look through the rest of the Hinckley baptisms on there to see if there is a coal carrier anywhere.

kiterunner
20-08-12, 14:03
Aha!

Baptism 9 Jul 1827 - Thomas, son of Joseph & Lucy Smith, abode Hinckley, occupation Coal Carrier!

Also Samuel 11 Sep 1829, same details.

Then there is an Eliza 18 Jan 1832, parents Joseph & Lucy, abode Hinckley, FWK.
George 8 Nov 1833, parents Joseph & Lucy, abode Hinckley, Coal Carrier.

kiterunner
20-08-12, 14:16
FreeREG does have some Hinckly burials but there is a gap for a few years after 1834 so Joseph could be in there.

There are possible death registrations Jul-Sep 1837 and Jan-Mar 1840 in Hinckley district.

Margaret in Burton
20-08-12, 15:44
Only just seen this. Brilliant Kate

You are having some luck with my Smith's Kate.

This lot are OH's. The other thread, Elizabeth Smith, is my lot.

I'll have a good look later, after tea.

Margaret in Burton
20-08-12, 16:05
I have this on the Ann Smith page too. Samuel aged 21 and mother Lucy (married not widowed)

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8860&iid=LEIHO107_2082_2082-0270&fn=Samuel&ln=Smith&st=d&ssrc=&pid=9601348

Margaret in Burton
20-08-12, 16:06
and this one in 1861. Lucy is a widow by then

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=LEIRG9_2259_2262-0575&fn=Lucy&ln=Smith&st=d&ssrc=&pid=21518346

kiterunner
20-08-12, 18:53
There are quite a few possible Joseph Smith deaths between 1851 and 1861 in Hinckley. And of course loads more in other districts! I haven't managed to find him on either the 1841 or 1851 census though, nor Lucy in 1841.

Margaret in Burton
20-08-12, 21:18
This looks the most likely from the NBI3

St Mary's, Hinckley, Joseph Smith aged 56 buried 26 April 1853

kiterunner
20-08-12, 22:38
Could be, but there are a few Joseph Smiths around.

Margaret in Burton
21-08-12, 06:51
Could be, but there are a few Joseph Smiths around.

Yes I know but a lot of the burials for that time scale are children.