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garstonite
05-07-12, 19:53
Hi...I have
William Henry Kennedy marrying Catherine Loxton in Liverpool in 1903..
the only suitable Catherine Loxton I can find born in England is born in Bristol 1886...looks like she was 16 when she married ..
can someone check I haven`t missed any other possible Catherine Loxton - I have to consider she may have been born in Ireland or Scotland because Liverpool was a very busy port at the time..
there is a Catherine Loxton in Bristol in the 1901 census aged 14 daughter of Head of House .- can`t see any other ...could someone see who her mum and dad are ...Catherines firstborn is named Agnes Kennedy....the Kennedy surname is Irish and I am wondering if both William and Catherine came over from Ireland
thanks
allan

Merry
05-07-12, 20:14
Have you looked for them in 1911? What are Wm Kennedy's details?

What are Agnes's birth details?

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:14
Ancestry has the marriage, Allan:

Name: Catherine Loxton
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 31 May 1903
Parish: Toxteth St Silas
Spouse's Name: William Henry Kennedy
Father's Name: Samuel Loxton
Spouse Father's Name: William James Kennedy

Do you have Ancestry? You can also view the image.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=LiverpoolCoEMarriages&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsln=Loxton&dbOnly=_F0005A5D|_F0005A5D_x&uidh=xt1&pcat=34&fh=3&h=4575693&recoff=7+28

Merry
05-07-12, 20:16
Catherine was 23 and dau of Samuel L, brass finisher.

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:18
Here they are in 1881;

1881 Census
TOXTETH PARK, Lancashire
RG11 piece 3646 folio 18 page 30
Address: 24, Vronhill St, Toxteth Park
LOXTON, Samuel Head MarriedM 24 1857 Brass Finisher Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Catherine Wife Married F 22 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Catherine S Daughter Single F 2 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Samuel Son Single M 0 1881 Liverpool, Lancashire

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:21
1891 Census
TOXTETH PARK, Lancashire
RG12 piece 2933 folio 8 page 11
Address: 20, Vronhill Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
LOXTON, Samuel Head Married M 39 1852 Brass Finisher Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Catherine Wife Married F 32 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Catherine Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Henry Son M 7 1884 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Percy Son M 5 1886 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Amy Daughter F 2 1889 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Gertrude Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire

Merry
05-07-12, 20:22
Cath is on the 1911 with three surviving children (Wm, Florence and Jane) and no husband at home.

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:26
Is this the Kennedys in 1911 minus William?

1911 Census
KENNEDY, Catherine
TOXTETH PARK, Lancashire
Reference RG14PN22256 RG78PN1316 RD454 SD3 ED5 SN329
Address: 12 Wellington Terrace Liverpool
KENNEDY, Catherine Wife Married7 years F 31 1880 Liverpool Lancashire
KENNEDY, William Ernest Son M 4 1907 Liverpool Lancashire
KENNEDY, Flourence Catherine Daughter F 3 1908 Liverpool Lancashire
KENNEDY, Jane Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Liverpool Lancashire

2 children had died.


The birth of William Ernest:
Name: William Ernest Kennedy
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1906
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1906
Parish: Princes Park St Paul
Father's Name: William Henry Kennedy
Mother's name: Catherine Kennedy

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:33
This is 1901. Samuel is a widower, living with his mother.

However, Catherine has the surname Stephens!

1901 Census
LOXTON, Samuel
TOXTETH PARK, Lancashire
RG13 piece 3435 folio 10 page 12
Address: 44, Vronhill Street, Toxteth Park
LOXTON, May A Head Widow F 69 1832 Waitress Domestic Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Samuel Son WidowerM 44 1857 Brass Finisher Liverpool, Lancashire
STEPHENS, Catherine Grand Daughter Single F 22 1879 General Servant DomesticLiverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Henry Grand Son Single M 17 1884 Railway Clerk Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Percy Grand Son Single M 15 1886 Printers Apprentice Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Amy Grand Daughter Single F 12 1889 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Gertrude Grand Daughter Single F 10 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, May A Grand Daughter Single F 6 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire
LOXTON, Frank Grand Son Single M 2 1899 Liverpool, Lancashire

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:42
Here is Samuel and Catherine's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1879
LOXTON Samuel Liverpool 8b 312
STEPHENS Catherine Liverpool 8b 312

ElizabethHerts
05-07-12, 20:45
It seems that Catherine Kennedy (Loxton) married again:

Name: Catherine Kennedy
Birth Year: abt 1878
Age: 41
Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1919
Parish: Toxteth St Clement
Spouse's Name: James Marthan Dempster
Father's Name: Samuel Loxton
Spouse Father's Name: John Dempster

Her husband was 59 and a donkeyman.

garstonite
06-07-12, 05:47
Thank you all so much ...I am puzzled as to why no Catherine Loxton is shown born 1879 ? could it be she was born Catherine Stephens ? her mothers maiden name ?..let me backtrack ....I have another mysterious lady in this family , if it`s ok , I will post about her as well.
thanks again
allan

garstonite
06-07-12, 06:09
The only Loxton born in Liverpool 1875 - 1880 is a Samuel Loxton in 1880
There is a Catherine Stephens b 1878 though ...is this her ?
allan

Merry
06-07-12, 06:10
Tes, I would imagine so. Note she also has middle initial S in 1881, probably when they had just decided to call her by her father's name and so left her mother's surname in there too!

This may be her:

Births Sep 1878
Stephens Catherine W. Derby 8b 336

garstonite
06-07-12, 06:33
Yes - thanks Merry ...I thought that as well ...looks like her ..will need the birth cert for her I think ...thanks again
allan

garstonite
06-07-12, 07:18
Well that`s a little lucky
Samuel and Catherine Loxton - 9 children - all at Our Lady Mount Carmel - baptisms
I am posting this link for anyone who wasn`t aware that 1837 -1900 Roman Catholic baptisms in Liverpool
some are on this site if your ancestors were baptised Roman Catholic

http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcbaptisms/baptisms.php
thank you all in such a short space I have Catherines baptism ( not baptised Stephens ) and all her siblings / parents and her mother in law ...what a site
allan
ADDED...Samuel Howard Loxton baptised 25th January 1857 - parents Samuel Loxton and Mary Ann -
1853 marriage
Samuel Loxton to Mary Ann Howard - Liverpool.....so the census where Samuel is with his mother stating May A Loxton , should have read Mary A Loxton ...thanks again to you all...incredible progress

garstonite
06-07-12, 08:01
It appears that Mary Ann`s husband Samuel Loxton died in 1859 - no age shown ..will try to find him in 1851 census to find his birth year and place
allan