Census help please

[Margaret in Burton]

I have Sarah Hale with her parents James and Hannah in 1851

HO107; Piece: 1965; Folio: 51; Page: 29

She was born in 1850 in Stroud, Gloucestershire

The next time I find her is in 1881 staying with her sister Elizabeth and brother in law Joseph H Smith

RG11; Piece: 2498; Folio: 6; Page: 6

The whole family seem to be hatters or in that trade. Sarah is a hat trimmer in 1881.

Can anyone find her in 1861 and 1871?

She isn't with her parents as I have already found them.

[kiterunner]

So on the 1851 census she is at Queens Square, Stroud, and in 1881 at West Street, Bristol. Just so we know where to start from.

[Phoenix]

What was her mother's maiden name? In case she is with relations.

[Margaret in Burton]

So on the 1851 census she is at Queens Square, Stroud, and in 1881 at West Street, Bristol. Just so we know where to start from.

Yes

[Margaret in Burton]

What was her mother's maiden name? In case she is with relations.

I'm not too sure on that marriage. I found a James HALL married to Hannah SWAIN

Mar qtr 1841 Vol 11 - Page 403 - Stroud

Hale is often mistranscribed as Hall.

[kiterunner]

He is Hale on Gloucestershire BMD, Marg. Marriage took place at St Mary, Painswick.

[Margaret in Burton]

He is Hale on Gloucestershire BMD, Marg. Marriage took place at St Mary, Painswick.

Oh, I had forgotten about that site

Will take a closer look at that tomorrow.

[kiterunner]

I haven't had any luck with finding her on the censuses, sorry.

[Margaret in Burton]

I haven't had any luck with finding her on the censuses, sorry.


It's very odd to disappear as a small child and then reappear as an adult. I'd assumed she had died until I found her with Elizabeth in 1881.

Must be very badly mistranscribed I suppose.

Thanks for trying Kate.

[kiterunner]

It could just be that her birthplace is incorrect on the missing censuses, though, because there are lots of Sarah Hales and Halls.

[geniebug]

Might she be at boarding school?

[Margaret in Burton]

It could just be that her birthplace is incorrect on the missing censuses, though, because there are lots of Sarah Hales and Halls.


More than likely, I will have another search later.


Might she be at boarding school?


Possible I suppose but they weren't monied people, father was a Hatter.

[Anstey Nomad]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=Sarah&gsln=Hale&msbdy=1850&msbpn__ftp=Stroud%2c+Gloucestershire%2c+England&msbpn=83925&msbpn_PInfo=8-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5265%7c83925% 7c0%7c&uidh=f62&pcat=1861UKI&h=19532417&db=uki1861&indiv=1

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[Margaret in Burton]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=Sarah&gsln=Hale&msbdy=1850&msbpn__ftp=Stroud%2c+Gloucestershire%2c+England&msbpn=83925&msbpn_PInfo=8-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5265%7c83925% 7c0%7c&uidh=f62&pcat=1861UKI&h=19532417&db=uki1861&indiv=1

AN

mmmmmmmmmmm

will investigate that one. I need to look into her mothers family, only done her fathers so far and those names don't fit in with that.

[Janet]

1861
Is there any reason for her to land up in London? Would they have moved a child that far to put her in an institution?
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=Sarah+OR+Sall*&gsln=Hale+OR+Hall&msbdy=1850&msbdy_x=1&msbpn__ftp=Keynsham&gskw=servant&uidh=9uh&pcat=1861UKI&h=8651019&db=uki1861&indiv=1

Name: Sarah Hall
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Gender: Female
Where born: N
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Regent Square
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: Foundling Hospital Guilford Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 108
Folio: 79
Page Number: 10

[Merry]

I don't think a child with two living parents would make it into the founding hosptal, would they?

[Margaret in Burton]

I don't think a child with two living parents would make it into the founding hosptal, would they?

I agree

[Janet]

I thought you might give me some unfathomable historical insight into times past where things are not always what they seem. :o But a foundling is still a foundling, so scratch that one!

[Uncle John]

Entirely possible that they end up in a distant children's home (e.g. Barnardo's, Spurgeon's, National Children's Home). I have one such in 1911, in a children's home in the North of England when his widowed mother was still in London.