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[bidston]

have been trying to take advantage of the free offer this weekend to search the 1911 census, does anyone know if it's only part available as i am trying to locate some of my lot in 1911 and everyone seems to have been beamed back up to the mother ship, not a soul in sight, am getting a bit worried now, do i really exist?

[kiterunner]

Do you want to post up the details of who you're looking for and we can have a go?

[bidston]

thanks, o.k. here goes, i have this family with young children in 1901

17 eleanor street, widnes

squire jones 51
maria jones 54
thomas jones 21
mary jones 20
annie jones 18
john jones 16
ben jones 13
lizzie jones 11
maria 9
aaron 7
emma 5 that's one , will post others separately

[bidston]

another lot

1901 126 field street, everton

martin welsh/walsh 54 bootmaker
mary welsh 54
william welsh 24 bricklayer

[bidston]

and not forgetting the big one, my grandparents who don't exist

robert girling
mary jones

in 1910 they had a son robert in sheffield
in 1912 they had another son albert ( my father ) in liverpool
in 1915 they were married in holloway, islington, london

where were they in 1911, all they family raised in liverpool as far as i know

[Merry]

another lot

1901 126 field street, everton

martin welsh/walsh 54 bootmaker
mary welsh 54
william welsh 24 bricklayer

We aleady have a massive thread about these people (and I don't think we ever got a conclusive 1911 census record):

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=13204&highlight=martin+walsh+1911

[kiterunner]

The first lot are in Everton, Lancashire, with Squire calling himself Robert:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&indiv=try&h=23823546

Well, that's Squire/ Robert, Maria, Ben and Emma, plus a Margaret - is that Maria jr with the wrong name? Anyway, it says 7 children still living, 3 deceased, so the rest of the children must have left home or been away for the night.

[Merry]

and not forgetting the big one, my grandparents who don't exist

robert girling
mary jones

in 1910 they had a son robert in sheffield
in 1912 they had another son albert ( my father ) in liverpool
in 1915 they were married in holloway, islington, london

where were they in 1911, all they family raised in liverpool as far as i know

And we have already spent forever looking for these before too (haven't looked for the thread yet but I remember it well!)

[Merry]

And we have already spent forever looking for these before too (haven't looked for the thread yet but I remember it well!)

There are several old threads, but this is the longest!

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=3075&highlight=robert+girling

[kiterunner]

And this looks to be William Walsh also in Everton:
William Walsh (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=William&gsln=W*l*h&sx=&f2=&f3=&f8=&rg_81004011__date=1876&rs_81004011__date=10&f17=&f18=Salop&f23=&f20=&f21=&_8000C002=&_80008002=&_80018002=&f15=&f9=&f22=&gskw=&prox=1&db=1911england&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=19372618&recoff=)

[bidston]

blimey, that looks like them, he was born in yorkshire and he was a boilermaker, but why robert?

sorry merry, i know we did these before but i thought i might get something from the 1911 census, couldn't remember if people had access to that before, apologies

[bidston]

yes, that's william, many thanks

[kiterunner]

No, you're right to try looking on the 1911 again now because ancestry now have a full index which they didn't before. I've got to lay the table for dinner now but will do some more hunting later.

[bidston]

many thanks, we live in hope

[Merry]

blimey, that looks like them, he was born in yorkshire and he was a boilermaker, but why robert?

sorry merry, i know we did these before but i thought i might get something from the 1911 census, couldn't remember if people had access to that before, apologies

It's not a probem, but people need to know it's probably not just a case of quick look up!

Something might possibly turn up on Ancestry that doesn't show so easily on the other 1911 sites we were using before.

[kiterunner]

I can't find Martin and / or Mary Walsh or Welsh in 1911. I wonder if they could have died before then? And no luck with the Girlings, I'm afraid, though not a big surprise.

[kiterunner]

Going back to the Joneses, in 1901 they have 9 children and in 1911 they say they had 10 altogether but 3 died, so 2 must have died between 1901 and 1911. There is a likely death for Aaron who was 7 on the 1901 census - Aaron Jones age 9, Jul-Sep 1902 Prescot district.