William Henry Babington/Babbington

[Muggins in Sussex]

I have the marriage cert of William Henry Babington to Ruth Annie Rathbone in 1898 in Eccleshall Bierlow. Henry is descibed as a "widower" and I am trying to find out who his first wife was.

In 1891 Henry is also a widower, and living with his daughter Elizabeth, who I think must be Elizabeth Newbold Babington, born 1888 and died 1892.

I don't really want to buy Elizabeth's birth cert, but can't find a likely first marriage for Willliam.

Also I cannot find William before 1891 ( born 1856 in Leicester, I think)

Can anyone help please?

(I think that Ruth Annie, his second wife, had distant connections with the surname Newboult/Newbold, but I can't see how that would fit in)

[Merry]

Maybe this is his first wife?

Deaths Dec 1887
Babington Elizabeth 35 Ecclesall B. 9c 260

Have you eliminated this marriage group?

William Henry Babington Jan-Feb-Mar 1886 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
Elizabeth Brown Jan-Feb-Mar 1886 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
William Cranage Jan-Feb-Mar 1886 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
Mary Hill Jan-Feb-Mar 1886 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire

[Merry]

Staffordshire BMD does say Babington married Brown:

BABINGTON William H BROWN Elizabeth Burton-upon-Trent, Christ Church East Staffordshire 241/04/080

[Merry]

Births Jun 1856
BABINGTON William Henry Leicester 7a 180

I see what you mean about him not being easy to find in the earlier censuses.

Do you know who his parents were?

[Muggins in Sussex]

Oh thanks Merry :)

The Elizabeth Brown marriage does look right :) - I kept going to and your questions and you had posted again :d

On his marriage cert to Ruth, his father is Thomas deceased ( occupation is very hard to read)

The witnesses look like William Clarkson ? and Walter L Warmslept (?)

I'll see if I can post the cert here

[Muggins in Sussex]

This is the copy of the cert that I have - it is vey hard to read!

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/djangocrystal/babington-1.jpg

Edit - I'll see if I can make it bigger!

[Merry]

I wonder about this.....

Thomas B aged 27 a lodger in Leicester in 1851, b Ashby, Leicestershire, something in the boot trade. Then....

Marriages Dec 1851
Addy Sarah Leicester 15 233
Babington Thomas Leicester 15 233
EDMONDS Mary Leicester 15 233
HARTOPP John Leicester 15 233
Judge George Leicester 15 233
Leith Mary Leicester 15 233
McDONNOUGH Mary Leicester 15 233
PRENDERGAST Patrick Leicester 15 233



Deaths Mar 1871
BABBINGTON Thomas 45 Leicester 7a 132

I can't see him in 1861.

[Merry]

lol I can't read that!!

[Merry]

Oooh, I missed this post before:

On his marriage cert to Ruth, his father is Thomas deceased ( occupation is very hard to read)

[Merry]

Ah, 1861 Ancestry have transcribed as

W Ely Babbinton b 1856 and father Thos Babbinton b Ashby-de-la-Zouch

I always had the G in my searches!

Thomas is a widower.

[Merry]

I'm not sure who Mrs Babington was as the only female death in Leicester between 1856 and 1861 is for an Ann and none of the brides in 1851 are Ann!

Thomas's occ in 1861 seems to say "Boots at Inn". I wonder if he said "Boots at home"? I still can't read the 1851 version.

[Muggins in Sussex]

Merry, you are wonderful! Many thanks!

Looking at the marriage cert again Thomas's occupation is definitely too wrds beginning with S - looks like Sitei Servawn?

Not having much luck with posting a better copy - the cert was e-mailed to me and it's very faint
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/djangocrystal/babington-1-1-1-1-2.jpg

Oh I think it's worse than my first attempt!

[Merry]

Is it shoe buyer?

(I'm only going by the vague word shapes)

Wm is in Scotland in 1881:

BABINGTON, William Head Unmarried M 25 1856 Writer To The Signet
b England
81, George Street, St George, Midlothian

[Merry]

I still can't see him in 1871, but maybe as a recently orphaned teen he got missed?

[Muggins in Sussex]

Is it shoe buyer?

(I'm only going by the vague word shapes)

Possibly Merry - it could be almost anything! The word below (Thomas Rathbone'e occ is bootmaker)

Wm is in Scotland in 1881:

BABINGTON, William Head Unmarried M 25 1856 Writer To The Signet
b England
81, George Street, St George, Midlothian

I still can't see him in 1871, but maybe as a recently orphaned teen he got missed?

I've got loads to look at thanks, Merry :) William seems to have had a varied career - he ended up being a photograher for the Sheffield Star, I am told

[Margaret in Burton]

Unproved link in OH's Thornley family from Ashby de la Zouch was a Thornley marrying a Babington.

Here they are in 1871.


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LEIRG10_3247_3251-0158&fn=Sarah&ln=Babington&st=d&ssrc=&pid=24379353

Probably no help at all to Joan.

[Muggins in Sussex]

Unproved link in OH's Thornley family from Ashby de la Zouch was a Thornley marrying a Babington.

Here they are in 1871.


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LEIRG10_3247_3251-0158&fn=Sarah&ln=Babington&st=d&ssrc=&pid=24379353

Probably no help at all to Joan.

Thanks Marg

Ancestry keeps "freezing" on me at the moment :eek:- I have a look later

[Merry]

Unproved link in OH's Thornley family from Ashby de la Zouch was a Thornley marrying a Babington.

Here they are in 1871.


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LEIRG10_3247_3251-0158&fn=Sarah&ln=Babington&st=d&ssrc=&pid=24379353

Probably no help at all to Joan.

I couldn't see Sarah and Mary Babington in 1841 to decide if Mary was married or single, but either she, or her husband (if she had one) might be sister or brother to Thomas Babington, father-in-law of Joan's relative :)

[Uncle John]

William must have seriously bettered himself if father Thomas was a Boots (odd-job man) in an Inn and William became a Writer to the Signet (Scottish barrister) by the age of 25. Or am I missing something?

[kiterunner]

I was thinking the same, UJ.

[Merry]

Well it seems to be the case.

It's a pity we don't know what happened to him between 1861 and 1881.