Missing in 1841 and 1851?

[Merry]

BK6 updated from this thread

I'm looking for Peregrine Hogg in 1841 and 1851 and am also wondering who his first wife was.

He was born in Enfield Middlesex in about 1822 (bap there in April 1822). He's on the 1861 census with his second wife Sarah Maria Harding who he married in 1855 (LMA):

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=MDXRG9_195_196-0277&fn=Peregrine&ln=Hogg&st=d&ssrc=&pid=5386491

He died before the 1871 census.

I don't know whether his occ on that 1861 census would give a clue to why I can't find him before? Unfortunately I'm not sure what the acronym is and don't want to put ideas into anyones heads!!

Any help would be much appreciated. :D

[HarrysMum]

No idea what it is Merry and can't see him under any wildcards in 41 or 51.

[Merry]

Thanks Libby - I can only think his first marriage was outside the UK as surely he must have married the first time by 1837 (when he was 15!)

[HarrysMum]

Still nuffin...but i found this. You probably have it..

By will proved 1880 Peregrine Hogg Purvis of Winchmore Hill left £2,000 to the vicar and churchwardens of St. Paul, Winchmore Hill, the interest to be distributed annually before Christmas in £1-gifts to 50 poor inhabitants of Winchmore Hill, irrespective of creed but with preference to residents in Highfield Row. In 1966 the income was £53. He also left £100 stock, producing £2 15s. in 1899, to nonconformist bodies, £200 stock producing £5 10s. for church purposes, and £200 stock producing £5 10s. for education

From: 'Edmonton: Charities for the poor', A History of the County of Middlesex: Volume 5: Hendon, Kingsbury, Great Stanmore, Little Stanmore, Edmonton Enfield, Monken Hadley, South Mimms, Tottenham (1976), pp. 203-207. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=26946 Date accessed: 27 March 2012.

[Merry]

Yeh, that's Peregrine Hogg's first cousin!

[HarrysMum]

Yes...I remember looking for him but that popped up in Google on the British History site.

Can you read the 1861 occ? It looks like H E J Co serv something.

[Merry]

Here's the image (middle one):

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/merry_monty_montgomery/My%20Family%20History%20Documents/PH1861.jpg

[Merry]

Ah!

Honourable East India Company

[Merry]

Ah-ha!

Groom's Name: Peregrime Hogg
Groom's Birth Date: 1822
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 26
Bride's Name: Sarah Laffree
Bride's Birth Date: 1833
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 15
Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1848
Marriage Place: Madras, Madras, India
Groom's Father's Name: Richard Hogg
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Frank Laffree

[Merry]

Two daughters:

Name: Emily Jane Hogg
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Aug 1851
Baptism/Christening Place: Madras, Madras, India
Birth Date: 18 Jul 1851
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Pengrine Hogg
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah


Name: Sophia Rebecca Hogg
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jan 1850
Baptism/Christening Place: Triohm Poly, Madras, India
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1849
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Pregrine Hogg
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah

I wonder if they died as well as their mother?

[Joy Dean]

So he possibly was in India in 1851 and 1841, too.

[Merry]

Name: Sophia Rebecca Hogg
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 21 Feb 1850
Burial Place: Madras, Madras, India
Death Date: 20 Feb 1850
Death Place:
Age: 0
Birth Date: 1850
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Poregrime Hogg

[Merry]

So he possibly was in India in 1851 and 1841, too.

I would think 100% for 1851 and probably for 1841.

[Merry]

His first wife was only 20 when she died (or even younger if that age at marriage is correct above):

Name: Sarah Hogg
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 06 May 1852
Burial Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Death Date: 05 May 1852
Death Place:
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1832
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Married

[Merry]

I can't find a death for Emily Jane in India and she isn't with her father in 1861, so is this her perhaps?

Name: Emily Jane Hogg
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1860
Registration district: Strand
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 2*

[HarrysMum]

Well, aren't you a clever bunny.

[Joy Dean]

Emily Jane Hogg (1851 - 1909)
Born in St Thomas Mt, Madras on 18 Jul 1851 to Peregrine Hogg and Sarah Laffra. Emily Jane married William Edmund Jones and had 5 children. She passed away on 21 Jun 1909 in Hubli, Bombay.
http://records.ancestry.com/Emily_Jane_Hogg_records.ashx?pid=23514199

[Joy Dean]

William Edwin Jones
Married 21 August 1865, Trimulgherry .Deccan, to Emily Jane Hogg 1851-1909,
http://www.angloindianfamilies.com/jones-family-tree-information/

[Merry]

Hooray! A survivor. All Peregrine's siblings and half siblings died as babies and I was begining to think he lost all his children too.

Thanks Joy! :):):)

[Joy Dean]

Hooray! A survivor. All Peregrine's siblings and half siblings died as babies and I was begining to think he lost all his children too.

Thanks Joy! :):):)

You're welcome:):):):)
(I put in google Peregrine Hogg Madras.)