Ann King 4 X G Grandmother

[borobabs]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Ann Drew

Date and place of birth
Abt 1779 Stradishall Suffolk, England

Names of parents
???

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
???

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
2 Jan 1808 to John Symons
License date:02 Jan 1808 License date year:1808 Bride's last name:DREW Bride's first name:AnnDual date:02Jan1808Groom'slast name:SYMONS Groom's first name:John Record source:Faculty Office Marriage Licence Allegations 1701-1850

Occupation(s) - if any
???

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!)

1841 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1032; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Cowling; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 23; Page: 9; Line: 1; GSU roll: 474641.

1851 Rockland St Peters Norfolk
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1823; Folio: 263; Page: 16; GSU roll: 207477

Date, place and cause of death
???

Date and place of burial.
???

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any
???

[ElizabethHerts]

Babs, are you sure that the one in 1851 is yours? She was born in Rocklands, Norfolk and not Suffolk. The spelling is slightly out, but that doesn't mean anything!

SYMONDS, Ann Head Widow F 77 1774 Receipt Parish Relief Rocklands Norfolk

[ElizabethHerts]

This looks like Ann in 1851:

1851 Census
SIMONDS, Ann
RISBRIDGE, Suffolk
HO107 piece 1787 folio 337 page 11

Address: Moat Farm, Red Dock Lane, Cowlinge
SIMONDS, John Head Married M 33 1818 Agricultural Labourer Cowlinge Suffolk
SIMONDS, Mary An Wife Married F 33 1818 Boxtead Suffolk
SIMONDS, Henry Son M 9 1842 Cowlinge Suffolk
SIMONDS, Caroline Daughter F 6 1845 Cowlinge Suffolk
SIMONDS, Ann Daughter F 3 1848 Cowlinge Suffolk
SIMONDS, Ellen Daughter F 1 1850 Cowlinge Suffolk
SIMONDS, Ann Mother Widow F 76 1775 Pauper Agricultural Labourers Widow Stradishall Suffolk

[borobabs]

No not 100% sure have ??? next to it which I didnt include sorry Elizabeth

[borobabs]

Wow brilliant Elizabeth and still with John (son) great stuff thanks

[ElizabethHerts]

1861 Census
SYMONDS, Ann
RISBRIDGE, Suffolk
RG09 piece 1125 folio 56 page 6

Address: Hall Road, Cowlinge
HAMMOND, John Head Married M 32 1829 Agricultural Labourer Cowlinge
Suffolk
HAMMOND, Martha Wife Married F 30 1831 Cowlinge Suffolk
HAMMOND, Betsy Daughter F 6 1855 CowlingeSuffolk
HAMMOND, Ellen Daughter F 4 1857 Cowlinge Suffolk
HAMMOND, Arthur Son M 0 (2M) 1861 Cowlinge Suffolk
SYMONDS, Ann Boarder Widow F 89 1772 ... Suffolk

[ElizabethHerts]

Babs, this looks like her burial. It's on NBI 3:

First name(s): Ann
Last name: SYMONDS
Date of burial 8 Feb 1863
Age at death: 90
Calculated year of birth: 1773
Place of burial Cowlinge
Dedication: St Margaret
County: Suffolk

[borobabs]

Wow thanks again Elizabeth

[ElizabethHerts]

Here's the death registration:

Deaths Mar 1863
SYMONDS Ann
Risbridge 4a 278

[borobabs]

Elizabeth that busy watching casualty never thought about that , and silly me will want the cert as well cheers pet

[ElizabethHerts]

Babs, our digital signal is playing up again tonight. I'll be glad when the change-over happens.

[borobabs]

Oh ours is August Im dreading it

[kiterunner]

Babs, do you have any more information about the marriage than that Faculty Office Marriage Licences entry? And is that the only place you have the surname Drew from? I'm just wondering if you're sure it's the right marriage?

[borobabs]

No thats the only info I have got me worried now why ???

[ElizabethHerts]

Babs, if Kate is correct, perhaps this is the marriage:

Year: 1804
Supplied Surname: KING
Surname: KING
Full First name: Anne
Supplied First Name: An
Spouse Surname: SIMONS
Spouse Full First name: John
Spouse First Name: Jn
Place: COWLINGE
County: Suffolk
Record source:Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840

[ElizabethHerts]

I'm trying to find possible children from the marriage, Babs. Which ones do you know of?

Here's one:

Name: Thomas Simons
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: , COWLINGE, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Simons
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13222-1

This looks like the BT for the same one, but no place:
Name: Thomas Simons
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Oct 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: SUFFOLK COUNTY BTS, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Simons
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13222-1

[ElizabethHerts]

It looks like a double christening:

Name: Susan Simons
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Oct 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: , COWLINGE, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Simons
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13222-1

[ElizabethHerts]

Entry: 162
Day: 20
Month: Jun
Year: 1818
Forenames: John
Surname: Simons
Relationship: son
Father: John
Occupation: Labourer
Mother: Ann
Abode: Cowlinge
Parish: Cowlinge, St Margaret
County:Suffolk

[kiterunner]

No thats the only info I have got me worried now why ???

It just seemed unlikely that they would have a Faculty Office Marriage Licence. The marriage that Elizabeth found looks much likelier.

[borobabs]

All I know is my 3 X G Grandmother is Elizabeth Symons 5 March 1809 in Cowlinge Suffolk who married John Goymer Marrige by Banns, witnesses from Suffolk reg office , Henry Symons Mary Symons Note Johns Name is down as Gormer from Oakempicker GF
Father was John mother Ann in baptism from IGI that someone found , I cannot find the 3 X Togg to post a link

[kiterunner]

Yes, there is a baptism on FamilySearch for Elizabeth Simons, 25 Jun 1809 Cowlinge, parents John and Ann. Elizabeth's date of birth is shown as 15 Mar 1809 on FamilySearch.

[borobabs]

So now I am puzzeled how much of the old family do I have left lol ;;
I have that John and Ann have
Henry 1807
Elizabeth 1809
Susan 1814
Thomas 1814
John 1818

And them showing as of the 2 census posts I put up here ???

[kiterunner]

Those look right, yes, Babs.

[borobabs]

Cheers Kate didnt know what to delete or not

[kiterunner]

Would you like the thread title changed to Ann King, Babs?

[borobabs]

Yes please Kate ;;;