George Tivers or Tiver MFFFFF

[Langley Vale Sue]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as – George Tivers or Tiver

Date and place of birth – abt 1777, possibly in Lymington, Hampshire although birth not found yet.
His marriage certificate states he is “of Lymington” and an article published in 1806 he is “George Tivers of Lymington Academy”.

Names of parents - unknown

Date and place of baptism - unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages – to Mary Ann Gaigor/er (nee Carter) on 1 October 1810, St Lawrence, Winchester, Hampshire (sometime mistranscribed as Tever)

Occupation(s) – Schoolmaster (his obituary states he was ‘Master of a respectable Academy’)

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
Various publications he contributed to in 1805 & 1806 list him as ‘of Axbridge Academy’ although one in 1806 refers to him as ‘of Lymington Academy’.
Married in 1810 in Winchester, Hampshire (his bride’s home town)
His elder son was born in October 1811 in Axbridge, Somerset.

Date, place and cause of death – July 1813, Axbridge, Somerset. Cause unknown

Date and place of burial – 17 July 1813, St John the Baptist, Axbridge, Somerset.

Details of will / administration of their estate – nothing found yet

Memorial inscription – not found yet

Link to his son George Gideon Gustavus Tivers
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=8751

Link to his wife, Mary Ann Carter
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13631

[borobabs]

Heres marriage from FMP;;

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Day: 2
Month: Oct
Year: 1810
Groom Surname: Tiver
Groom Forename: George
Groom Notes:
Bride Surname: Gaiger
Bride Forename: Mary Ann
Bride Notes:
Parish: Winchester St Lawrence
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Marriages
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

I carnt get out up for baptism on there

[Langley Vale Sue]

Thank you Babs, I already have the marriage, but thanks for looking for a baptism.

There are quite a few families named Tiver (without the 's') in the North Petherton area of Somerset, but I haven't been able to link them to my George yet.

[ElizabethHerts]

Sue, I've been looking on my disks and I can't find anything for Tiver/Tivers.

The nearest I could find was this:

Day: 7
Month: Dec
Year :1760
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Geo
Surname:Tarver
First Parent: Michael
Second Parent:
Notes:
Parish:Milford
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

There appear to be a few Tarvers in the Lymington area. Perhaps the surname got changed over time?

[ElizabethHerts]

This is the burial of Michael Tarver:

Day:17
Month:Apr
Year:1789
Surname:Tarver
Forename:Micheal
Age:
Parish:Milford
County:Hampshire
Notes:
Record source:Hampshire Burials
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

[Langley Vale Sue]

Thanks Elizabeth.
I'd never thought about a name change like that, but I've been saying the name 'Tarver' in my attempt at a Hampshire dialect (:rolleyes:) and it does sound like 'Tiver'.
Hmmm I wonder........................:confused:;)

[ElizabethHerts]

Sue, when I was searching for the name Tiver/Tivers the only ones I found were your family when/after George married.

I did find one marriage apart from George:
John Tiver and Hannah Richards
10 Oct 1774 Portsea St Mary

Those were the only two Tiver/Tivers marriages on the entire disk (1754-1837).

[ElizabethHerts]

It's the vowel sounds, Sue, when I think of it.

Growing up in Devon, I know that vowel sounds can alter one's perception of a word!

[ElizabethHerts]

There are 32 wills for the surname Tarver on the National Archives website.

There are also 81 records for the surname Tarver on the CALM Hampshire database:

http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServe/DServe.exe?dsqIni=DserveA.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29=%27Tarver%27%29

[Langley Vale Sue]

Thank you for looking for me and for the link to the CALM Hampshire database Elizabeth. I'm off to have a look now.

The main thing that puzzles me about the spelling though is that George Tiver(s) was a schoolmaster and also a frequent contributor to various publications in the early 1800s as Tivers, so presumably he would know how to spell his own name!:confused:

[ElizabethHerts]

Thank you for looking for me and for the link to the CALM Hampshire database Elizabeth. I'm off to have a look now.

The main thing that puzzles me about the spelling though is that George Tiver(s) was a schoolmaster and also a frequent contributor to various publications in the early 1800s as Tivers, so presumably he would know how to spell his own name!:confused:

That's what is puzzling me, too, Sue. It wasn't as though he were illiterate. Also, you would think you would be looking for parents of a certain social class.

Re. Michael Tarver, I couldn't find any other children for him or a wife.