John Symonds/Simmonds 4 X G Grandfather

[borobabs]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
John Symons

Date and place of birth
Possibly Cowlinge abt 1771

Names of parents
???

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
???

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
2 Jan 1808 Parish Records Collection - marriage License date : 02 Jan 1808 License date year : 1808 Bride's last name : DREW Bride's first name : Ann Dual date : 02 Jan 1808 Groom's last name : SYMONS Groom's first name: John

Occupation(s) - if any
Ag Labourer

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!)

1841 Cowlinge Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1032; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Cowling; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 22; Page: 8; Line: 25; GSU roll: 474641.

Date, place and cause of death
???

Date and place of burial.
Assume cowling

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any
???

[borobabs]

Have found this burial but cannot find him on 1851 census
Rarish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
First name(s): John
Last name SYMONDS
Date of burial: 14 Nov 1851
Age at death: 72
Calculated year of birth: 1779
Place of burial: Wickhambrook
All Saints
Suffolk
Wickhambrook All Saints
Denomination: Anglican 1750 - 1902
source: National Burial Index
Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society

[kiterunner]

This looks like the one the burial was for, but I don't know whether it's your John:

1851 census - piece 1787, folio 343 page 1/2
Meeting-Green, Wickhambrook, Suffolk
Henry Cook Head Mar 37 Ag Lab Suffolk Stradishall
Harriet Do Wife Mar 28 Do Hawkedown
(children Emily, Mary Ann, William, Elizabeth)
John Simonds Lodger Widower 73 Pauper Suffolk Poslingford.

[kiterunner]

No, there's a John Simins (Simino on ancestry) age 63 at Wickhambrook on the 1841 census with some Cookes so he'll probably be the one buried in 1851.

[borobabs]

Thanks for looking Kate him and the dam Goymer's have been doing my head in as you never know where Cowlinge is under , sometimes Norfolk others Suffolk

[kiterunner]

There's a death registration for a John Symonds Jul-Sep 1843 Risbridge vol 12 p 247 and another one Apr-Jun 1847 Risbridge vol 12 p 327.


Did your John and Ann have a son John born about 1817-18 Cowlinge? Because there is a John Simonds age 33 at Cowlinge on the 1851 census (with wife Mary Ann, children Henry, Caroline, Ann and Ellen) and he has his widowed mother Ann there, her age has been transcribed as 96 but I think it must be supposed to say 76 as she would be way too old to be his mother if she was 96. Her birthplace is Stradishall.

[borobabs]

I only have them down as having Henry 1807 but that means he was born year bwefore there marriage and Elizabeth 1809 my 3 X G Grandmother , couldnt find any more baptisms with John and Ann as parents

[borobabs]

I have this for Ann in 1851 but dont know if its right or not have ? next to it

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1823; Folio: 263; Page: 16; GSU roll: 207477.

[kiterunner]

In 1861 Ann Symonds age 89 born Stradishall is a boarder with a family called Hammond in Cowlinge.

[borobabs]

Pmsl that would be funny if it was her Hammonds are related to us via daughters hubby lol
Where is Stradishall please ???if you know

[kiterunner]

FamilySearch has a baptism for John Simons 28 Jun 1818 at Cowlinge, parents John and Ann, so that fits with the family I found in post #6. There is also a Thomas and a Susan both in 1814. I can't see Henry's baptism on FamilySearch.

[kiterunner]

Where is Stradishall please ???if you know

It's very close to Cowlinge and Wickhambrook.

[borobabs]

Oh thanks for that I must remember to use that more often been using freereg

[borobabs]

It's very close to Cowlinge and Wickhambrook.

Cheers Kate thought I had seen that mentioned before but didnt know where it was

[kiterunner]

That's weird - Cowling or Cowlinge doesn't seem to be listed in FreeREG's list of places?

[borobabs]

No I know been doing my head in with it been doing Norfolk and Suffolk and then was opting for Docking ones