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HarrysMum
13-02-12, 09:54
Well, actually another branch of the same Yorkshire family, but....

George Naylor

All I really know about him is that he married Elizabeth Eyre (the last big posting ) 14th May 1795 Birstall. He was from Cleckheaton.

He had two children 1796 and 1797 and died 1806 aged 68. I have his will and it is a bit of a mish mash of family.

He has a brother Thomas Naylor of Sheffield
Sister, Sarah Pogmore

Another sister in law??? Johanna Linfitt and abrother in law, Benjamin Robinson.

He lived at Marsh House.

I have found a baptism 1739 on FMP with father, Joseph, in Dewsbury, but the two other siblings I found (Ann and Clementia) are not on his will and Thomas isn't on FMP.

So if anyone wants a quest......off you go.

kiterunner
13-02-12, 10:06
Sounds familiar, have we looked into this before? I'll have a go, anyway.

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 10:07
Yes.

Blame Merry...she emailed some info and one thing led to another......

kiterunner
13-02-12, 10:11
Bother, I thought I'd found out where Benjamin Robinson fitted in till I looked at the date!

Benjamin Robinson married Mary Naylor 21 Jan 1813 at Keighley, according to FamilySearch), his age 31, hers 30.

But this is after George Naylor died, so can't be the right Benjamin - unless he was previously married to another Naylor, I suppose.

Merry
13-02-12, 10:12
Re Thomas Naylor (the brother who was dec'd in 1805)

I just saw this

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V44ZAAAAYAAJ&q=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&dq=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Yu44T-ytPIfM0QW14_HFAg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBDgU

mentioning a Thomas Naylor in Doncaster in the 1760s.

Then I saw this, which might say the same (?) Thomas Naylor died at Sheffield, but I can't work out how to find a date for this second publication:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pBQEAAAAQAAJ&q=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&dq=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Yu44T-ytPIfM0QW14_HFAg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwADgU

Merry
13-02-12, 10:13
Bother, I thought I'd found out where Benjamin Robinson fitted in till I looked at the date!

Benjamin Robinson married Mary Naylor 21 Jan 1813 at Keighley, according to FamilySearch), his age 31, hers 30.

But this is after George Naylor died, so can't be the right Benjamin - unless he was previously married to another Naylor, I suppose.

Or another cousin marriage......:)

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 10:14
Merry...I emailed you AGAIN.....sorry...lol

Did you see the email about the "Walton"? Shades of Podmore/Pogmore.

borobabs
13-02-12, 10:28
Merry...I emailed you AGAIN.....sorry...lol

Did you see the email about the "Walton"? Shades of Podmore/Pogmore.

Arnt these related to Julie as well ???

Merry
13-02-12, 10:29
erm....it says George son of George Naylor of Walton, farmer.

If you mean the one 15 Sept 1733, but I thought you didn't have Ancestry? (or is that ElizabethHerts?!!)

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 10:33
County West Riding YKS
Place Sandal Magna
Church St Helens
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Sep 1733
Forename Geo
Sex M
FatherForename Geo
MotherForename
FatherSurname NAYLOR
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Walton <<<<<<<<
Notes
FileNumber 2607

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 10:35
erm....it says George son of George Naylor of Walton, farmer.

If you mean the one 15 Sept 1733, but I thought you didn't have Ancestry? (or is that ElizabethHerts?!!)



I now have Ancestry (World) The Genealogist, FMP, Origins. PLease do not tell Lawrie.....lol

kiterunner
13-02-12, 10:49
*faints*

Merry
13-02-12, 10:54
County West Riding YKS
Place Sandal Magna
Church St Helens
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Sep 1733
Forename Geo
Sex M
FatherForename Geo
MotherForename
FatherSurname NAYLOR
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Walton <<<<<<<<Notes
FileNumber 2607

that should say farmer and abode Walton.

I think he's a bit old.

How much would the marriage bond cost?

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 10:58
I can't find George Naylor's marriage on FMP.

Mary from Italy
13-02-12, 11:00
Then I saw this, which might say the same (?) Thomas Naylor died at Sheffield, but I can't work out how to find a date for this second publication:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pBQEAAAAQAAJ&q=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&dq=%22thomas+naylor%22+sheffield&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Yu44T-ytPIfM0QW14_HFAg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwADgU


I think it's 1826, in which case it corresponds to the burial of Thomas Naylor aged 89 at Christ Church, Attercliffe, near Sheffield on 6/3/1826.

kiterunner
13-02-12, 11:05
I can't find George Naylor's marriage on FMP.

It's on ancestry, that "Parson Brittell" one.

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 11:12
Yes....Kite. I have that but can't find it on FMP. Thought I might be able to buy the licence.

Mary from Italy
13-02-12, 11:15
FMP doesn't have many marriages, and no licences as far as I know.

kiterunner
13-02-12, 11:17
Would it be on British Origins? I can't remember exactly what they have on there.

Merry
13-02-12, 11:25
The marriage bond is on Origins.

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 11:25
Yes, it's there. Not sure whether it's worth 7pounds plus whatever they want for postage to see if George's father is named??

George was in his 50s when he married....

Merry
13-02-12, 11:43
I doubt either father would be named unless a father was one of the bondsmen and then it probably wouldn't say the relationship.

I take it the bond is recorded as being 1795?

Mary from Italy
13-02-12, 12:06
Fathers were only usually named in the licence if a spouse was a minor.

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 19:21
Morning......sorry OH wanted the computer and I feel asleep..lol

Anything I should be checking this morning????

I keep coming across this High Hoyland family of Naylors, but don't think it's the right one. They do have a George, bit early for mine. They also ahve a Thomas who has a son, Joshua. George's will mentions his grandson, Thomas, from his late brother.

Looking again at the will, I'm not sure if that Thomas is the son of Joshua, so Thomas' grandson, or the grandson of another late brother. George Naylor could well have been the youngest of a long line of children therefore being quite a bit younger than some siblings.

Merry
13-02-12, 19:25
I keep coming across this High Hoyland family of Naylors, but don't think it's the right one.

Let's take bets then! I think he's the best fit so far, if only because he may be the one who marries Miss Robinson!

Anything I should be checking this morning????



Yeh, find a bap for Sarah Roffitt in about 1740 :D (see George Naylor thread)

Well, you did ask! lol

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 19:50
No Sarah anything born 1730 to 1749 anywhere in Yorkshire who fits.

Did find a Sarah Rotherby (sounds like Fotherby and Fotherby is in the will so I'll hang on to it for a mo)

Any other counties best to try? I know...they could have been from anywhere...lol

Merry
13-02-12, 20:01
My searches covered the whole country - obviously that bride was born somewhere! But presumably not anywhere covered by anything! lol

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 20:02
Found a Sarah Roffet born/bap 6/12/1747 Harlington Bedford. Parents Richard and Sarah

It's on the older Family Search and extracted.

Merry
13-02-12, 20:08
Any Anns?!!

I think the Mary Eyre dau of Joseph of Marsh House who married John Williamson in 1821 was a witness at the Naylor/Ariel marriage in 1815. I wonder who Sarah Walton is? Must be another relation! And the third one is Saml Thompson - have you ever found a will for him?

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 20:12
Ann Rofett???

Elizabeth Eyre's sister, Ann, married Pearson Walton. Remember the 13 page will.....lol

Merry
13-02-12, 20:20
Ann Rofett???

Elizabeth Eyre's sister, Ann, married Pearson Walton. Remember the 13 page will.....lol

??? Sarah Fotherby and Ann Roffitt (or whatever) are George's cousins. I was thinking they might be sisters, one unmarried and the other a widow.

Who is M J Naylor who married Myles and Elizabeth?

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 20:27
Blowed if I know????

If he's the vicar at St Johns, he should be in a list somewhere.
I'll have a look.

Knowing the way George Naylor talks about his sister and sister in law.......Ann could have married a Rofett.

Merry
13-02-12, 20:34
This must be him! (Dewsbury!! lol)

Name: Martin Joseph. Naylor
College: QUEENS'
Entered: Michs. 1784
Died: 21 Nov 1843
More Information: Adm. sizar at QUEENS', Nov.5, 1782. Of [Batley Carr, near Dewsbury], Yorks. [B. at Batley Carr.] Matric. Michs. 1784; exhibitioner, 1784; B.A. (3rd Wrangler) 1787; M.A. 1790; B.D. 1799; D.D. 1829. Fellow, 1789. Senior Proctor, 1797-8. Ord. deacon (London, Litt. dim. from York) Dec. 23, 1787; priest (Peterb.) July, 1789. V. of Penistone, Yorks., 1809-43. R. of Crofton, 1837-43. Resided at Wakefield for nearly 50 years. Head Master of Wakefield Grammar School, 1814-37. Suspected, in 1793, of being a member of a small Jacobin party in the University. A man of coarse and rough manners, known as ‘the honest Yorkshireman,’ whom Gunning frequently met at Queens' Lodge; ‘the only person in the University who was in the habit of using violent bad language when talking on political subjects.’ For more than 30 years editor of the Wakefield Journal. Author, Discourses on the Evidences of Christianity. Died Nov. 21, 1843, aged 80. M.I. and window in Wakefield Cathedral. (Foster, Index Eccles.; Northants. Clergy; Gunning, Reminiscences, I. 310; M. H. Peacock, Hist. of Wakefield Grammar School, 146-7; G. Mag., 1843, I. 104.)

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 20:38
Yep....that sounds like one of OH's lot.....lol

Merry
13-02-12, 20:39
Maybe he's just a coincidence? Son of Abraham, bap 1765 in Halifax.

HarrysMum
13-02-12, 20:48
Maybe not.......there's a few Abram/ Abraham Naylors born Dewsbury.....lol