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Merry
09-02-12, 06:36
Nothing to add to BK6 from this thread

In the late 1700s through to the 1830s some of my relatives lived at Orange Street, Bloomsbury. Can anyone tell me where this is/was?

Asa
09-02-12, 06:54
There's quite a good explanation here - http://www.ucl.ac.uk/bloomsbury-project/streets/orange_street.htm

Does that place it for you?

Merry
09-02-12, 07:22
Oh yes, thanks very much Asa! I don't like the word obliterated though!!

maggie_4_7
09-02-12, 19:49
The Year 1804 Orange Street near Red Lion Square


http://mapco.net/wallis1804/wallis08b.htm

Merry
09-02-12, 19:58
Thank you Maggie! I found it OK even without an eyetest! :)

maggie_4_7
10-02-12, 14:14
Good.

Although having admitted that I am a lot older than you I don't advise you to go another 10 years without having one though... :) it's a case of don't do what I do... oh well you know the rest.

I work in Red Lion Square and I had relatives living in Old North Street in 1841, Lambs Conduit Passage about 1820's and also in Red Lion Street at some point and dotted around Holborn and Bloomsbury, I do have a walk around to spot the places and some streets and passages survive albeit with an evolved name. Sadly some have been 'obliterated' but thats progress I'm sure the Romans wouldn't have recognised Londinium in 1830.

Let me know if you want any photos of any buildings/streets that is if they've survived.

It is a very historic area most people just rush through to their jobs having travelled in from the surrounding counties and got the tube to Holborn without realising.

Merry
10-02-12, 14:59
Thanks very much Maggie - that's very kind of you to offer. If Orange Street was still around I'd be sending you up there pronto!

It's quite dangerous making me think too much about Bloomsbury as that makes me consider putting up another thread about my McCrerys and you wouldn't want that to happen! I've just had a look at my tree for other addresses in the area, but mostly I don't have any because only the McCrerys admitted to living a a particular address - all the others just had their church events in St George Bloomsbury, which I'm presuming is a church with no remaining gravestones?

maggie_4_7
10-02-12, 15:41
Thanks very much Maggie - that's very kind of you to offer. If Orange Street was still around I'd be sending you up there pronto!

It's quite dangerous making me think too much about Bloomsbury as that makes me consider putting up another thread about my McCrerys and you wouldn't want that to happen! I've just had a look at my tree for other addresses in the area, but mostly I don't have any because only the McCrerys admitted to living a a particular address - all the others just had their church events in St George Bloomsbury, which I'm presuming is a church with no remaining gravestones?

"...all the others just had their church events in St George Bloomsbury, which I'm presuming is a church with no remaining gravestones?"

I've no idea have you enquired - I assume most graveyards in Central London have been disinterred now but some not - like Bunhill Fields many are still insitu may be no markers but the grounds are still intact and with headstones.

St Mary's Church in Islington the grounds remain the same and they rest the headstones against the wall that have been retrieved.

St Lukes in Clerkenwell suffered badly so I don't expect to much to still be there however, St James still has it's churchyard intact.

My gggrandfather was buried at St Katherine Coleman I know that the burial grounds do not exist anymore neither does the church and there is just a plaque in the walkway of a big financial instution.

Merry
10-02-12, 19:23
I've no idea have you enquired

lol I can't remember! ;( I'll investigate!

maggie_4_7
10-02-12, 20:47
lol I can't remember! ;( I'll investigate!


Good :D

Merry
10-02-12, 21:27
Oooh!

http://londoncemeteries.co.uk/2011/07/09/st-georges-gardens-2/

http://www.friendsofstgeorgesgardens.org.uk/

The gardens are situated to the left of the marker here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=Heathcote+Street,+london&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1613l5156l0l5479l10l10l0l0l0l0l209l1474l0.9 .1l10l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1080&bih=484&wrapid=tlif132891263013210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x48761b3813afcc89:0x49f34e44de71d4a1,Heathc ote+St,+London+WC1N+2AL&gl=uk&ei=AJk1T9__NM_u-gabteGCAg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q8gEwAA

So, I guess there's a miniscule chance of a gravestone! lol

Uncle John
11-02-12, 16:33
I too used to work close to Red Lion Square. I walked there from St. Pancras. I found the 1897 map interesting, particularly that so many street names survived despite major redevelopments.