John Goymer/Goymor 4 X G Grandfather

[borobabs]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
John Goymer

Date and place of birth
Abt 1771 Suffolk

Names of parents
Father Anon mother Margaret Goymer

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
???

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Mary Swan
Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record Year:1800 Supplied Surname:SWAN Full First name:Mary Spouse Surname:GORMER spouse Full First name:John Spouse First Name:Jn Place:COWLINGE County:Suffolk Record source:Boyd's Marriage In Cowlinge

Occupation(s) - if any
Ag Labourer

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!)
1841 Ringamore Green Cowlinge Suffolk
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1032; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Cowling; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 21; Page: 7; Line: 19; GSU roll: 474641

Date, place and cause of death
???

Date and place of burial.
???

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any
???

[kiterunner]

How do you know his mother is Margaret Goymer if you don't have a birth or baptism for him, please, Babs?

[kiterunner]

On the 1851 census, there's a John Gormer in the Risbridge Union Workhouse at Haverhill (says Essex on ancestry but I thought it was in Suffolk?), age 81, widower, ag lab, born Wickhambrook Suffolk. Wickhambrook is only a couple of miles from Cowlinge.

Refs are HO107/1787 folio 160 page 5.

[kiterunner]

And there is a John Gormer death registered Oct-Dec 1854 Risbridge district, vol 4a p 261 (too early for age at death to be on the index).

[kiterunner]

Ooh, findmypast has a burial in Cowlinge in 1854 for John Gormer age 84, so it looks very likely to be him.

[borobabs]

Hmm I distant cousin has all the family tree lives down that way and he ssaid in the risbridge parish records he is mother Margaret so looks like he was illegitimate , his mother went onto marry Stephen Harrel in 1778

[borobabs]

His grandfather was from Denston, Wickhambrook he has this family back to his father so think that will be him dont you

[kiterunner]

I don't really know without seeing the tree and the parish registers!

[borobabs]

He didnt send me that and he hasnt got the source of that info on his tree on GR anymore he has removed most of his tree now

[kiterunner]

Hmm I distant cousin has all the family tree lives down that way and he ssaid in the risbridge parish records he is mother Margaret so looks like he was illegitimate , his mother went onto marry Stephen Harrel in 1778

That's weird - Risbridge parish doesn't seem to exist. Wikipedia lists it as a hundred but there is no parish called Risbridge? Nor on GENUKI. Are you sure it was the Risbridge parish records?

[Oakum Picker]

Risbridge is a registration district in Suffolk.

[kiterunner]

Yes, but is it a parish, Glen?

[Oakum Picker]

Well, it doesn't appear in my book of contiguous Suffolk parishes & I've never heard of it so I think not.

[kiterunner]

Thanks, Glen.

[borobabs]

I have looked on the gedcom that was sent to me about this but he hasnt listed any sources at all of them just bare ged so pass which parish reg book he said he got them from ,,,will check each e-mail later on today

[Oakum Picker]

Had a quick google & found a rootsweb page 'Risbridge GUYMERs' but the details show Risbridge is the reg. dist.

[borobabs]

Yes Glen its just that he told me he got the info from parish records but dont know which or what parish ,,,have more or less lost touch with him now , I will search my goymer mail later tonight after done hospital visiting

[maggie_4_7]

No it isn't a parish here is the list of parishes in Risbridge Reg District, Suffolk/West Suffolk and some fall in Essex.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/risbridge.html

[borobabs]

Thanks for that Maggie , well they where mostly from Wickenbrook and Docking

[Muggins in Sussex]

Hi Babs

Is this any help?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/djangocrystal/DDBirthcert-1-1-2.jpg

(My Wickhambrook people were Scruttons)

[borobabs]

Yes Joan I have some certs like that myself , I only put the Risbridge as that was all the info I had at the time of posting ,,thanks pet and havnt come across that name in the tree lol