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samesizedfeet
24-01-12, 14:51
Another mystery that I think I have solved and I'm looking for your expert heads to basically pull it apart and prove me wrong or nod and hmmmm a lot in agreement.


I have an illegitimate child called JOSEPH WILLIAM HALL born 1861 in Islington.


His mother is Jane Linkson (1842) who married George Henry Edney in 1867.


On 1871 as Joseph W Hall (wife's son) c 1861 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LNDRG10_287_290-0113&fn=Joseph+W&ln=Hall&st=r&ssrc=pt_t1483982_p-846808849_kpidz0q3d-846808849z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=11457467


On 1881 as Joseph W Edney (that's his mothers married name) http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7572&iid=LNDRG11_260_265-0248&fn=Joseph+W.&ln=Edney&st=r&ssrc=pt_t1483982_p-846808849_kpidz0q3d-846808849z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=14313020


His aunt (Jane's sister) married John William Allday HALL in 1863. But she was remarried in 1865 to George Rayner.

On my hunt to find out more about John W A Hall I looked at is family, who were from Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire, but in 1861 he is living in London with his brother Joseph Hall, c1836, a Traveller. (I think salesman rather than gypsy)

This set a little "I wonder if….. " off in my head.

By 1871 Joseph is back in Nottingham with his mother but showing as married (Occ: Traveller Hosiery) , and in 1881 he is with wife and children again in Nottingham. (Occ: Agent for Prussian Cloth)


BUT….. in 1866 at ST Mary Islington there is a baptism for a Joseph William Hall, born 1861, parents Joseph (Commercial Traveller) and Jane.
Address is SHepperton Cottages which is a Linkson family residence.

The rather loud ringing bell on this one is that on the same day in the same church there is a baptism for Mary Margaret Rayner, daughter of George and Ellen. That being Ellen Linkson, sister of Jane.


The census for that area for 1861 is missing (although the baptism gives his birth as 5th August so Joseph wouldn't be on it).


Any thoughts at all?

Zoe

kiterunner
24-01-12, 18:22
Have you got his birth certificate, Zoe? (assuming that his birth was registered)

samesizedfeet
24-01-12, 23:35
No. Not yet. I really want to now though as there's a strong possibility the father's named.

This getting back up my tree thing is starting to cost me an absolute fortune

Kit
25-01-12, 02:29
Sounds like you are onto something Zoe, enough for me to consider buying a cert if it was mine.

Merry
25-01-12, 05:46
No. Not yet. I really want to now though as there's a strong possibility the father's named.

This getting back up my tree thing is starting to cost me an absolute fortune

Surely it's more than a strong possibility? The more likely annoyance wuld be that you learn nothing more than the info on the baptism.

samesizedfeet
26-01-12, 01:03
The only extra info that teh certificate may give me (other than confirming it's Jane and Joseph) would be perhaps an informant and another family address.

As I said I don't have the family in 1861 census as it doesn't exist - but I have a fairly good idea where Jane's parents were and any of her married siblings as I have plenty of certificates from around that time bought to help my put together a picture of the family without the census.

Merry
26-01-12, 05:46
So.........have you ordered it yet then??! :rolleyes:

samesizedfeet
26-01-12, 12:31
Hahahaha. No. I'm waiting for all the online sales shopping I've done to be debited from my account so I know how poor I am.