William Seaman

[kiterunner]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as William Seaman
Date and place of birth About 1762
Names of parents Don't know
Date and place of baptism - if applicable Don't know
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any 2 Jun 1800 Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, to Abigal Bangay. St Bartholomew's church, by banns, both of this parish, both single, witnesses Richard Bangey and Lewis Owen.
Occupation(s) - if any Labourer
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!). St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk, when son William was born about 1813.
Date, place and cause of death Apr 1837 Norwich, Norfolk
Date and place of burial. 16 Apr 1837 St Giles, Norwich, age 75, abode this parish
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Not found
Memorial inscription - if any Not found

Link to son's thread:
William Seaman jr (http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=7448)

His son William got married in India in 1838 and gave father's name as William Seaman, but no occupation is stated. William jr's first two children were named William and Abigail, so I think he could well be the son of that couple who married in 1800, but I haven't found a baptism for him yet to help prove it.

[kiterunner]

Possible burial - 16 Apr 1837 at St Giles Norwich, age 75, abode this parish.

[Merry]

Is that Wm jrs army record on FMP? Have you looked at the earlier one for Wm Seaman from Norwich (b 1766)?

[Merry]

16 Apr 1837

Have you checked the death duty registers?

[kiterunner]

Is that Wm jrs army record on FMP? Have you looked at the earlier one for Wm Seaman from Norwich (b 1766)?

Yes, and no. *off to look*

Have you checked the death duty registers?

Not yet - I only found that possible burial today.

[kiterunner]

Can't see him in the wills section of the IDD although there is a Jas Seaman of Heigham in 1837.

Thanks for the tip about the military record for drummer Wm Seaman born 1766 - it's a militia record. It seems to say that he joined 11 Jan 1804 at the age of seven! Which would make him born 1796, too young to be my William sr. :confused:
then it says he served for 22 years after the age of 16, up to 1835. Which again would mean he was born around 1796/7. And on the second image it says that he was 18 on 11 Jan 1815.

I wonder whether findmypast will refund my credits!

[Merry]

How irritating!

[kiterunner]

I've sent them in a correction. They seem to have taken his age of 38 in 1835 and used it as his age on attestation in 1804. Well, at least we can rule him out!

[kiterunner]

Didn't find him (the one who died 1837) in the administrations section of the IDD either, but that would fit if it is my William since William jr was a labourer before he joined the army.

[Phoenix]

Hello, cousin! Well, if you prove the Bangay connection!

I can't remember how the Norwich Bangays work their way back to North Norfolk, but I do have the trees somewhere.

[kiterunner]

Ooh, I was just looking at NROCAT for something else entirely and had a quick look for Seamans while I was there, and I found a Removal Order dated 14th Apr 1801 for Abigail, wife of William Seaman, labourer, removed from Norwich St Paul to Hockering.

William and Abigail Seaman had a son George christened at Norwich St Paul 19 May 1805.

We found a possible baptism for my William jr (son of the William who is the subject of this thread) on another thread:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=5158&highlight=seaman&page=2
Post #11 - William Symonds baptised 5 Jul 1818 at St Giles Norwich, dob 1st Jul 1818. This is the right parish for my William jr but a few years younger than my William said he was when he joined the army.

Plus the name Symonds seemed quite far removed from Seaman.

BUT - if Abigail Seaman was removed to Hockering, it is likely that her husband was born there. There doesn't seem to be a William Seaman (or anyone called Seaman) baptised at Hockering, but there is a William Semmons baptised there in 1766, and quite a few other people with surname Semmons, Semons, and a Henry Seamans. 1766 would be about right for my William senior, so I'm going to pencil that in and see where it takes me!

Edit - also on that other thread, there was a William Jonathan Simmons baptised 1813 and died 1817, son of William and Abigail, and the 1766 Hockering baptism has father Jonathan so that fits too.

[Phoenix]

Sounds promising, Kite! Norfolk people have a depresing habit of swallowing their words, so they do get mangled a lot.

[kiterunner]

I've just looked at the entry for Abigail Seaman's death in the Poor Law Record images on FamilySearch and it says hers was the "first Death in New Workhouse" (24 Oct 1859).

[kiterunner]

Oh dear, I've just found that the William Semmons who was baptised at Hockering in 1766, son of Jonathan and Mary, died as a baby, since there is a burial for him on the same page of the AT's as his baptism. I can't find another William baptised there and I even managed to find the BT's for 1769-70 and check those. But if Abigail was removed to Hockering, there must be some connection with the place, so I will need to keep digging.