Not sure what this is about.

[HarrysMum]

My 4x great grandfather was Mark Turner. He was transported to Australia 1789 and died here 1802.

On one of his records here, he gives his parents as Simon and Joanna.

I've had his baptism as 16th Jan 1760, St Andrews Enfield, London.

I thought I'd look for some more of his family, but I've now found a baptism on Ancestry which has 16th June 1749.

The 1760 one is an extracted record from Family Search.

Can anyone explain this? I just don't think there are two Marks with the same parents.

I have a few siblings for Mark and I was hoping to trace them forward, but got sidetracked with these two baptisms.



Forgot to say..........I have searched for a burial in case there was an older Mark.

[Phoenix]

My guess would be he was either privately baptised first time round, or did not know whether he had been when he took up employment with someone who required him to be a practising christian.

I take it that none of the documents you possess state his age?

[Merry]

Unhelpfully, there's a burial for a Mark Turner at St And Enfield 26th April 1771 but no age given.

I wonder if the various baps for the children of Simon and Hannah are the same couple? (at Enfield/Edmonton). They would help fill the gap between the two Marks!

[kiterunner]

Unfortunately Ancestry doesn't seem to have the St Andrew Enfield baptisms for 1760 to check whether the FamilySearch entry is right.

[HarrysMum]

Just got up and hands aren't working well yet so won't type too much. Tree is on my other computer, but I did take Hannah to be Joanna.

Marks age on his trial fits the 1760 baptism.

There is a sister, Esther, who is mentioned later in 'family lore'. There is an Esther baptised with father Simon.

Haven't found a marriage for Simon so can't really tell when the children 'should' start arriving.

[kiterunner]

Well, if the first Mark was buried at St Andrew Enfield between 1749 and 1760 then the burial is likely to be missing from ancestry too.

[HarrysMum]

True Kate.

I'd say Family Search has one set of dates transcribed and Ancestry has the other and there's a gap...........lol

[HarrysMum]

On other computer now.

Children of Simon Turner and either Joanna or Hannah....(I think they may be the same person)

Hannah 1755
John 1757
Mark 1760
Esther 1761
John 1764


I'm supposing if the 1749 baptism for Mark Turner is correct (and I looked at the image so it should be) there should be a swag of other kids to Simon.

As yet I haven't been able to track any of the others.

Would there be any way of seeing the earlier Enfield records??

[Joan of Archives]

Totally irrelevant I know but I got married in St Andrews lol :d I must say I think the original one got pulled down though :rolleyes:

[Merry]

Children of Simon Turner and either Joanna or Hannah....(I think they may be the same person)

Hannah 1755
John 1757
Mark 1760
Esther 1761
John 1764



I also see:

Robert 1752 (Simon/Hannah, All Saints, Edmonton)