Can't see for looking!

[Merry]

Nothing to add to BK6 from this thread

I'm investigating a family in 1911 and they have an adopted daughter living with them. I wanted to try and find her birth family, but can't match her up to any other record. Of course her name might have been changed, but I feel I might be missing something....

The 1911 census entry says:

Dorothy Hollinsworth (spelling started with a G in the middle, but was changed to an S by the head of house) adopted dau, 15, student, b Pendleton, Lancs

I guess she didn't have a middle name, as others on the same census sheet have theirs included.

Her adoptive parents were Hugh and Elizabeth Cawley aged 70 and 69 respectively.

I also can't find Hugh and Elizabeth's two unmarried daughters in 1911 (they were with their parents in 1901). They were Helen Cawley b 1864 in Helmingham Suffolk and Ada Blanche Cawley b 1877 Acton, Cheshire. They both died, unmarried, in 1956.

[Tom Tom]

Possible?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1901%2c&rank=0&=%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c% 2c%2c%2c&gsfn=Dorothy&gsln=Hollingworth+&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=2&h=19656941&recoff=

[Merry]

Possible, I guess! Thanks Tom.

I suppose she is most likely to be the first of these two?

Births Mar 1894
Hollingworth Dorothy Ashton 8d 525

Births Dec 1894
Hollingworth Dorothy Stockport 8a 94

[Merry]

No, that's not right - both those girls seem to have died as infants.

[Tom Tom]

Can't see anything else. Can't see a birth reg on Lancs BMD either which is normally quite good.

Suppose it is possible they changed her name, but why choose that name in particular?

Can't see the sisters either. Is it possible they were suffragettes? There was a movement to boycot the 1911 census wasn't there?

[Merry]

i DIDN'T MEAN YOUR CENSUS CHOICE WAS WRONG, JUST MY REGISTRATIONS! (oops, caps lock :o)

That might just be possible about the suffragettes (I had forgotten, so thank you).......

[Merry]

There are Hollingworths in Pendleton ..............

[Merry]

Does the plot thicken?

Births Jun 1892
Cawley Dorothy May Salford 8d 78

[Merry]

Apparently not as that Dorothy is with married parents in 1901 and was born in Salford not Pendleton.

EDIT and she's still there in 1911

[kiterunner]

I can't find anything to help. Maybe the two daughters will turn up when ancestry finishes indexing the 1911.

[Merry]

Yes, that's true!

[Merry]

How odd.....the obit for Hugh Cawley in 1929 states his only son (John b 1866) died "during the war", yet the death reg is 1924.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Oooh, was he cast out? Father left over £80,000 in 1929. Son left £10 10s in 1924.

[Tom Tom]

Suppose it coule mean from wounds?

I have a relative who died in 1927 from wounds received fighting in the first world war.

Not sure of the details exactly, and they are probably the secondary cause.

Does sound like he was disowned though. Who proved son's will?

[Merry]

His widow.

Son would have been 47 when WW1 started, so I would have thought unlikely to have been fighting.

I imagined between 1891 and 1901 he had taken over his father's business as he changed from employee to employer during these years, though I now see his father was also an employer in 1901. From about 1905 until 1927 (so including the time his son died) father and his wife were living in a huge mansion with 33 rooms, so it seems especially sad that his son seems to have fallen on hard times.

[Merry]

Oooh, here's a snippet from the catalogue entry for some papers at Derbyshire RO:

Family scrapbook, manuscripts, newspaper cuttings, magazines, photographs, invitations etc relating to family, Longstone, Keighley, politics and events of public interest including:
2 copies Bleachers Journal, Bolton Amalgamation, (Operative Bleachers, Dyers, and Finishers Association) reporting death of Mr John Cawley of Messrs Hugh Cawley, Adelphi Dyeworks, Salford. January 1925

So, John seems to have been involved in his father's company until his death.

Makes me wonder who wrote The Times obit?

(the Bleachers Journal sounds like one of those publications they feature in Have I Got News for You!!)

[Granny Lynne]

Apparently not as that Dorothy is with married parents in 1901 and was born in Salford not Pendleton.

EDIT and she's still there in 1911

Merry, there is an area of Salford called Pendleton. Not that it helps you.

[Merry]

Merry, there is an area of Salford called Pendleton. Not that it helps you.

These things are always useful to know! Thanks Lynne :)