Has anyone researched ancestors from Germany?

[Fi aka Wheelie Spice]

I would be grateful for any advice.

Thanks

[kiterunner]

I have, Fi, but I haven't got very far. What dates and what particular part of Germany are you looking at?

[maggie_4_7]

I have but its been pretty difficult.

What are you looking for?

[Elaine]

There's quite a useful research guide that you can download from the Family Search (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/RG/frameset_rhelps.asp?Page=./research/Titleg/Titleg.asp&ActiveTab=Title) website.

Click on Germany Research Outline and download pdf file.

[garstonite]

go to www.geneanet.org and join for free....click on quick search and then put in surname and then in place box put Germany...IF YOU`RE LUCKY you may get the name up and then click on the hits ...and then you`ll get a list with the researcher on the left....click on the researcher and make contact...
they have 312 million names in Foreign Countries
.I hope it`s OK to say this ..BERLIN BOB on www.rootschat.com is very good at helping German Research..go to immigration and emigration thread....good luck....allan;)

[tinkerbe]

also google the name
i came with up the private nationalize bill for one of mine
till family search
and bone up on your german history and geography as it move about it

[Muggins in Sussex]

Hello Fi

I tried to get a copy of a Berlin marriage certificate from the 1940's.

The bride and groom were my aunt and uncle and I was told that I was not entitled to a copy because I was not sufficiently closely related.

So I don't think it is easy

[Fi aka Wheelie Spice]

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

I am doing my nephews' tree and their gt x 3 grandfather on their father's side was born in Germany, no other place name mentioned and I cant find them prior to 1901 on the UK census despite marriage taking place in UK. I have not brought the cert for the marriage yet.

[Uncle John]

I found my maternal ancestors in the IGI. But I already had some of their names and where they lived.

[kiterunner]

When you have the marriage cert, if you can post up the info you have, Fi, maybe we can come up with some ideas.

[Merry]

I know the marriage cert is on the LMA Ancestry records as I looked at it the other day, but I've forgotten the name of the people!

[Merry]

Here we are......top right:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31280_196093-00156&fn=George&ln=Weigold&st=d&ssrc=&pid=2570861

[Merry]

This is probably George in 1891 given the occupation:

RG12; Piece: 86; Folio 99; Page 6

[Merry]

One of the witnesses at the marriage, Peter Zoller, is brother to the bakers shop owner in 1891, so that would seem to clarify it's the same George.

[Merry]

TNA Internees Index says he was born at Ach, Germany 28th Jan 1864.

[Fi aka Wheelie Spice]

Merry how on earth did u find all that?

[Merry]

lol!

I don't know where Ach is though! *waits for KiteRunner*

[Fi aka Wheelie Spice]

Thank you so much Merry. so maybe he will be in the 1881 with the mispelt surname but I wont bank on it. :)

[Merry]

It doesn't look as if his father died here, so he probably came over as an adult.

I did see an older female death in the name Weigold between 1901 and 1911 who didn't show up easily in 1901, and had a passing fancy it could be his widowed mother, but I didn't investigate! lol

[Merry]

Forget that, she is Rosina Wygold in 1901 and she also has a son called George but born in Spitalfields! lol

[Tilly Mint]

lol!

I don't know where Ach is though! *waits for KiteRunner*

I think it may be Aachen, if it is..Fi, can you give me your email addy and i will send a map to you

Been there, its lovely :)

[kiterunner]

Yes, I was thinking Aachen, Jacky, I've been there a few times too. Otherwise known as Aix-la-Chapelle, or Aix for short as in the poem "How they brought the good news from Ghent to Aix". It hasn't always been in Germany, though, so it might be worth checking whether it was actually in Germany at the date in question?

[kiterunner]

Okay, I've checked and it was German by then.

[kiterunner]

Merry, I can't see how you found him on TNA either! Is there an actual document that Fi would be able to download which might have more information? (and so she could check the spelling of his birthplace on the original)

[Merry]

All I did was put his name in the top right box here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm

where it says'search the archives'

There were two results, both for him, but I don't know anything about these records. :o

[Fi aka Wheelie Spice]

I got the internee index stuff from site called movinghere. It says ach and i just checked if it was in germany at time also. Jacky, i am posting from my mobile but will pm you my email tomorrow. Thanks all for your help. X

[Merry]

And if you click the entry it's available for free download, so I downloaded the first one! lol It's a typed form and Ach is spelled Ach!

The form was completed in 1940, so maybe to do with him being here and German during WW2? I have had too much wine to take it in properly! :o

[kiterunner]

It says "Jewish community" on the catalogue details, so does that mean he was Jewish? I'm afraid I don't know much about Jewish records, sorry.

[kiterunner]

Oh dear, it looks as though there is a place called Enthalb der Ach which is in Bavaria and Weiler an der Ach which is in Baden-Wurttemberg, so I suppose "Ach" could be one of those places. The trouble with German records is there aren't national indexes like our GRO ones, so you have to know where exactly to look unless you are lucky enough to find something online, maybe on FamilySearch or ancestry.

[dukkie]

Having a german ancestry as well, and i've learnt a lot of history and geography in the last 2 yrs - (but not a lot about the ancestors LOL)....what does TNA stand for?

Aachen....was there an internment camp in WWII in Aachen? i think looked after by British forces?

[Merry]

The National Archives :) (at Kew)

[dukkie]

The National Archives :) (at Kew)

:o of course! its early here :confused: just got up and on :D