Robert Joyner

[Phoenix]

Surname spelt variously as Joyner, Joiner, Goiner etc


Robert Joyner was baptised 30 April 1740 in Corfe Mullen, Dorset, son of Henry Joyner & Mary. He is the eldest child I have found of those parents.

He married Susanna House 5 August 1769 in Puddletown, Dorset

His seventh known child was Charlotte Octavia Joyner bp 13 January 1782.

I am descended from her younger sister

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=10349

[Phoenix]

The family lived at Puddletown, Dewlish, Corfe Mullen & Hamworthy. Because there was no church at Hamworthy at the time, the youngest children were baptised at Lytchett Minster.

[step4joy]

Robert Joyner was baptised 30 April 1740 in Corfe Mullen, Dorset, son of Henry Joyner & Mary. He is the eldest child I have found of those parents.
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=10349

G'day Phoenix,

Apparently Robert has a little brother named Michael Joyner (1755-1816) and Michael is my Gx4Great-Grandfather. :D

I say 'apparently' because I've seen them listed as such on a number of trees but I can't find any actual source record showing who Michael's parents ;( Do you know of any such record?

Regards
Step4joy

[kiterunner]

There is a baptism on ancestry at Corfe Mullen, 2nd Jan 1753 Mickell son of Harry Joyner was baptized. Ancestry have transcribed his name as Wickell but it is Mickell on the actual image (and somebody has already put in a correction to it).

[step4joy]

Thanks Kate ! you've Made MY DAY!!

[Phoenix]

Hello cousin!

Kite was also too quick for me.

[step4joy]

Hello cousin!

Kite was also too quick for me.

Well maybe my new found Cousin Phoenix, you can dive in before Kite with the source of Harry's wife being Mary. ;-)

[Phoenix]

Just found this today:

Day:19
Month:Nov
Year:1736
Forenames:Henry
Surname:JOINER
Parents names:son of Henry & Mary
Place:Poole
Description:St James
County: Dorset
Country:England
Born or Notes: Of Corfe Mullen

Baptism of an elder brother.

I can't find a marriage anywhere yet, though there might be one on Ancestry.

[step4joy]

Well done Phoenix! That was so Quick!!

It is an interesting coincidence that my father and his mother were also named Henry/Harry and Mary Joyner. Where did you find the above record?

However I would think Dad was named after his maternal grandfather, Heinrich, rather than his Gx4 Grandfather. Also Dad's middle name was after his paternal grandfather, Samuel although he also had a Gx2 Great Grandfather Samuel on his mother's side.

[Phoenix]

Shush! (I'm at work!)

There are lots of databases around for Dorset. I subscribe to Find My Past. Ancestry has images of original registers where they survive. There are also some records on Family Search and there are online Parish Clerks for Dorset.

When I get home (abt 3 hrs) I'll see what else I can dig out for you.

[Phoenix]

Okay, Stephen.

Michael Joyner left a will and Dorset Record Office have a holograph copy. Death duties were paid on this and the 1817 index on Find My Past shows that the executor was Geo Joyner, who I assume was Michael's youngest son, and your ancestor?

This link, which you have probably already found, seems to have a passing reference to Michael Joyner: http://www.communigate.co.uk/dorset/kinsondorset/page3.phtml

I can't find a marriage of Henry Joyner to Mary. This doesn't completely surprise me. A lot of the Dorset records don't seem to survive and Corfe Mullen is close to, if not actually on the coast, so people could arrive from other counties.

[step4joy]

Thank you again Phoenix.

yes I've looked on the online parish clerks for Dorset, IGI and Family Search and communigate over the last few weeks. On communigate I didn't see the one you posted but only of the marriage of Michael's niece, Mary Ann Joyner, to a Pardy. Oh dear a Smuggler!! and here my Dad was a Customs Officer! How the circle turns!

For some reason Ancestry wasn't showing any 'hints' for any of these ancestors, until I entered the info. For instance, when kiterunner found the baptism of Michael, I then I entered the date of it (2nd Jan 1753) and THEN ancestry showed it in the hints.

When adding information to my tree I'm reticent to just scavenge unsourced information off other people's trees, although when all else fails I have occasionally temporarily added something to see if Ancesty comes up with a hint related to it. But that always runs the risk of being forgotten at the end of an unsuccessful search and remaining unsourced on my tree - which I don't like. I've seen some really wierd things on trees out there on the internet - even my own at times (I'll blame it on working through the night.) Like one time I was so chuffed about finally finding the birth or baptism of the man I was looking for that I didn't notice that he was born after he was married! (It wasn't his son either.) I came back months later and thought "What's this!" <embarrassed grin>

However on the downside, the sure and steady approach does make progress terribly slow at times.

[Phoenix]

A lot of people have researched the Joyners. I did all my initial research pre computers and I think I looked at transcripts for Corfe Mullen, rather than the registers themselves. I have Robert, Millier [sic], Susanna, Mickell & Mary.

I don't subscribe to Ancestry, which makes life very challenging as I can't see trees or spot obvious connections. But no matter how I search, I'm blowed if I can find a marriage for Henry!