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Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 18:54
Rose Ryan's parents?

I went to Kew today to the National Archives and I apologise for not informing you all beforehand. It was a very last minute decision as I was until late yesterday meant to be elsewhere today.

I started my research into my nephews family which was actually dedicated to my brother in laws families and atempted to trace them through the censuses.

For one name (not Ryan) I looked at the 1911 census (the most recent available) and found that the father was born in GERMANY! help! They dont appear on any censuses prior to 1911 despite their children being born in England and the husband and wife being married for 15 years and married in this country.

I had a great day and as we were all leaving I met Phoenix. Neither of us knew each other were there until then.

Have you guessed the names of Rose Ryan's parents yet?
kiterunner
03-10-09, 19:04
Mum and Dad? Mr and Mrs Ryan?
Merry
03-10-09, 19:07
For one name (not Ryan) I looked at the 1911 census (the most recent available) and found that the father was born in GERMANY! help! They dont appear on any censuses prior to 1911 despite their children being born in England and the husband and wife being married for 15 years and married in this country.



Did you want help with this bit?

Sorry, but I'm too dim to understand the part about Rose Ryan! :o
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 19:45
well done Kiterunner. on the 1911 census Rose Ryan's parents called themselves Mr and Mrs Ryan. Very helpful - NOT!
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 19:53
If anyone has info about Germany records I could do with help. yes please.
Merry
03-10-09, 20:02
How do you know they married in this country?
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 20:11
cos i have guessed the parents names
Merry
03-10-09, 20:22
cos i have guessed the parents names

I thought the German question and the Ryan question were completely different things?

So shouldn't they (the ones where the father was born in Germany) be here in 1901?
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 20:24
you r right. the German family and the Ryan family are different. I need help with German rellies
Merry
03-10-09, 20:27
So, who are they?!!!! lol
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 20:55
George Weigold and family who funnily enough Merry lived in Fishbourne (is that near you). on the 1911.
JessBow
03-10-09, 21:01
where were the children born, what were their names, and what was Mrs Weigold 's first name? Florence?

there is a whole lots of Weigold 's born n sussex, are they yours?
Merry
03-10-09, 21:08
But surely this is them in 1901? Same spelling as in 1911.

RG13; Piece: 975; Folio: 8; Page: 7
Merry
03-10-09, 21:09
George Weigold and family who funnily enough Merry lived in Fishbourne (is that near you). on the 1911.

No, I live in Dorset. Fishbourne is in Sussex (not that I'd ever heard of it before!)
Merry
03-10-09, 21:10
And this would be the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1896
Gardiner Charles Harbord Islington 1b 469
JONES Nellie Martha Islington 1b 469
Rayson Florence Islington 1b 469
Weigold George Islington 1b 469

I'm wondering if maybe I'm looking at the wrong family?
JessBow
03-10-09, 21:14
they are on 1911 in Westbourne Sussex , at least a Florence & a George are

WEIGOLD ALICE F 1900 11 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD FLORENCE F 1871 40 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD FLORENCE T F 1902 9 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD FREDERICK M 1908 3 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD GEORGE M 1864 47 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD GEORGE M 1904 7 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD IVY F 1906 5 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD SYD M 1897 14 Westbourne Sussex
WEIGOLD VICTOR M 1899 12 Westbourne Sussex

Fi, was her name Florence or is this another guessing game?
Merry
03-10-09, 21:16
If Florence and George are the right people, their marriage is on Ancestry LMA records, so their father's details etc are available. Do you need those?
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 21:25
But surely this is them in 1901? Same spelling as in 1911.

RG13; Piece: 975; Folio: 8; Page: 7

Merry, can I just say how blooming brilliant you are. I have searched all day at Kew at not found that. Ludwig is actually Sydney or rather Syd on 1911.

Thank you.
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 21:27
Jessbow I guessed that too, but thats the details I found on 1911. Thanks to you both
Merry
03-10-09, 21:28
Ludwig is actually Sydney or rather Syd on 1911.

Thank you.

The 1901 page looks like Lydney but certainly not Ludwig!

Maybe you could find George's immigration papers at Kew? TNA site is broken at the moment.
Fi aka Wheelie Spice
03-10-09, 21:32
Phoenix who I met at the end of the day suggested immigration papers too