Ayres from Gloucstershire / Wiltshire

[Beduffbloke]

Hi Folks, Im trying to find out some info about my wife's g/g/grandmother.
Amelia Ayres born around 1860 in Fairford, Gloucestershire married to John Sutton Ayres, born 1847 Brinkworth, Wiltshire. Anything you can find out would be great.

[ElizabethHerts]

How much do you already know?

As a starting point, here is the record of John Ayres' birth:

AYRES, John Sutton
Registration District: Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume No: 8
Page No: 363

[ElizabethHerts]

This is his death:

Name: AYRES, John Sutton
Registration District: Cricklade
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 43
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 20

[ElizabethHerts]

A marriage, but not to "Amelia"

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: AYRES, John Sutton
Registration District: Cricklade
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 81
He married one of these two:
DASH, Mary Ann
OVENS, Mary Ann

This isn't him !

It is John S Ayres senior:

1891 Census
AYER, John S
CRICKLADE, Wiltshire
RG12 piece 1588 folio 131 page 6
Purton Stoke, Purton
AYER, John S Head Married M 70 1821 Wheelwright Purton Wiltshire
AYER, Mary Ann Wife Married F 60 1831 Purton Wiltshire

[ElizabethHerts]

Here is his marriage to Amelia:

Name: AYRES, John Sutton
Registration District: Cirencester
County: Gloucestershire
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 6A
Page No: 611
Amelia Harrison

She must have died before 1889.

[ElizabethHerts]

This could be Amelia Harrison in 1871. NO - NOT HER

If so, she was born in Pangbourne, Berkshire.

1871 Census
HARRISON, Amelia E
MARLBOROUGH, Wiltshire
RG10 piece 1905 folio 73 page 45

Her father was Thomas and her mother was Mary.

Mm, I'm not sure about this. I seem to have found someone with this name as the wife of Alfred E Perkins on the 1881 census.

[kiterunner]

If you're trying to find out about Amelia's family, you would need to order a copy of her marriage certificate to find out her father's name.

Gloucestershire BMD confirms that John Sutton Ayres married Amelia Harrison, at St Mary the Virgin, Fairford.

[ElizabethHerts]

Amelia was born in Fairford, according to the 1881 census.

1881 Census
AYERS, John S
CRICKLADE, Wiltshire
RG11 piece 2024 folio 77 page 7

AYERS, John S Head Married M 34 1847 Carpenter And Joiner Brinkworth Wiltshire
AYERS, Amelia Wife Married F 23 1858 Fairford Gloucestershire

[ElizabethHerts]

Amelia's birth registration:

Name: HARRISON, Amelia
Registration District: Cirencester
County: Gloucestershire
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6A
Page No: 333

[ElizabethHerts]

1871 census:

1871 Census
HARRISON, Amelia
CIRENCESTER, Gloucestershire
RG10 piece 2648 folio 102 page 1

HARRISON, Chas Head M 50 1821 Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Mary Ann Wife F 48 1823 Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Eliz Daughter F 23 1848 Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Amelia Daughter F 13 1858 Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Thos Son M 11 1860 Gloucestershire
LAW, Lucy Daughter F 4 1867 Gloucestershire

The transcription is odd because the original census form has been very casually completed.

[kiterunner]

I still think it would be best to get Amelia's marriage certificate to check her father's name before trying to trace her back.

[ElizabethHerts]

1861 possibly

As Kiterunner says, buy the marriage cert. first.

1861 Census
HARRiSON, Amelia
CIRENCESTER, Gloucestershire
RG09 piece 1784 folio 92 page 22

Born Fairford.

HARRISON, Charles Head Married M 40 1821 Labourer ... Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 38 1823 Labourers Wife Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Lucy Ann Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Charles Son M 7 1854 Scholar Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Amelia Daughter F 3 1858 Fairford Gloucestershire
HARRISON, Thomas Son M 1 1860 Fairford Gloucestershire
BARNARD, Thomas Butcher Widower M 74 1787 Labourer Bibury Gloucestershire

[scuda]

Glos BMD ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx has the birth of Amelia Harrison in 1858, Cirencester district, Fairford office, and gives the mmn as Miles

scuda

[ElizabethHerts]

Is this a child:

Name: AYRES, Charles Harrison
Registration District: Cricklade
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 46

[ElizabethHerts]

This is becoming intriguing:

1891 Census
AYERS, Amelia
CRICKLADE, Wiltshire
RG12 piece 1588 folio 130 page 4

AYERS, Amelia Widow Married F 33 1858 Inn Keeper Fairford Gloucestershire
AYERS, Charles Son Single M 9 1882 Scholar Purton Wiltshire
AYERS, Oliver Son Single M 7 1884 Purton Wiltshire
AYERS, Harold Son Single M 7 1884 PurtonWiltshire
AYERS, Frank Son Single M 5 1886 Purton Wiltshire
HARRISON, Mary Mother Married F 69 1822 Eastleach Gloucestershire
HEATH, Henry Cousin Single M 17 1874 Lodger Lyneham Wiltshire

So she didn't die!

[ElizabethHerts]

A marriage, but not to "Amelia"

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: AYRES, John Sutton
Registration District: Cricklade
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 81
He married one of these two:
DASH, Mary Ann
OVENS, Mary Ann

So this marriage is strange!! Was it "our" John after all??

[ElizabethHerts]

It looks as though it could be "our" John's father who was marrying!

1901 Census
AYRES, John S
CRICKLADE, Wiltshire
RG13 piece 1912 folio 111 page 6

AYRES, John S Head Widower M 80 1821 Carpenter Lyneham Wiltshire
AYRES, Oliver J Grand Son Single M 17 1884 Carpenter Purton Wiltshire
DEVONALD, Jane Widow F 69 1832 House Keeper Bristol Gloucestershire

Edit:
This is John Sutton Ayres' death (the father):
Mar qr 1903
Ayres John Sutton 82 Cricklade 5a 30

[scuda]

John Sutton Ayres married Amelia Harrison in 1880 at St Mary the Virgin, Fairford (Glos BMD)

scuda

Sorry, see I'm a bit late with that info!

[ElizabethHerts]

Amelia could have re-married:

Name: AYRES, Amelia
Registration District: Help Highworth
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Name: ODY, William Elton
Registration District: Help Highworth
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 5A
Page No: Help 28

[ElizabethHerts]

1901 Census
ODY, William E
MALMESBURY, Wiltshire
RG13 piece 1913 folio 87 page 20

1901 census - household transcription
Person: ODY, Amelia
Address: Callow Hill, Brinkworth

ODY, William E Head Married M 40 1861 Carpenter Purton Wiltshire
ODY, Amelia Wife Married F 42 1859 Fairford Gloucestershire
ODY, William W Son Single M 6 1895 Brinkworth Wiltshire
ODY, Elton J Son Single M 2 1899 Brinkworth Wiltshire
AYRES, Harold Step Son Single M 17 1884 Railway Stoker Purton Wiltshire
AYRES, Frank Step Son Single M 15 1886 Labourer (Farm) Purton Wiltshire
MATTHEWS, Gladys Single F 0 (10 MOS) 1901 Visitor Swindon Wiltshire

[ElizabethHerts]

1911 Census
ODY, Amelia
MALMESBURY, Wiltshire
Reference RG14PN11836 RG78PN654 RD242 SD1 ED8 SN87

ODY, William Elton Head Married16 years M 47 1864 Carpenter Purton Wiltshire
ODY, Amelia Wife Married F 52 1859 Fairford Gloucester
ODY, William Walter Son Single M 16 1895 Farm Laborer Brinkworth Wilts
ODY, Ellvis John Son M 12 1899 School Brinkworth Wilts - should be Elton!

[ElizabethHerts]

It seems that Amelia Ody didn't die until 1942:

Name: ODY, Amelia
Registration District: Marlborough
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1942
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 82
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 186

[ElizabethHerts]

A famous name:

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: ODY, Elton John
Registration District: Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 59
:)

His brother:

Name: ODY, William Walter
Registration District: Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 51

[Beduffbloke]

thank you so much guys very helpful

[Beduffbloke]

Ive found Richard Ayres born 1817 in Dauntsey in wiltshire died 1863. Anybody help find his Parents?

[kiterunner]

FamilySearch has a Richard Ayres baptised at Dauntsey 9 Mar 1817, mother Mary Ayres. It might not be possible to find out who his father was.

[kiterunner]

And if he's the one who married Jane Potter in 1840, FamilySearch doesn't give his father's name on the marriage, though you would have to get a copy of the marriage cert to confirm there is no father's name on it.

[kiterunner]

Ooooh, but luckily, A2A has an entry for:

Bastardy Case A1/125/52/H 1817


These documents are held at Wiltshire and Swindon Archives


Contents:
Name: Ayres Mary Dauntsey
Sex of Child: Not Recorded
Father's Name: Richard Smith
See also same sessions for 2 children charable to Lyneham

But whether we can find the right Richard Smith I don't know. I think you would need to get a copy of the bastardy document and see what details it gives about him (and about Mary).