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JBee
17-07-11, 19:55
I've got a family that emigrated to the USA in 1887 and I have them on the 1910 and 1920 census's in Philadelphia but not in 1930.

Now where can I find their deaths or the marriages of their children? I have ancestry world but can't seem to see anything relating to Pennyslyvania except the census

ElizabethHerts
17-07-11, 20:15
Julie, I've spent most of the day on the Family Search site investigating a line that emigrated. I've found most of the marriages I wanted.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/9JJ3-KCR/p8

THis is an example of what you get.

JBee
17-07-11, 21:08
Thanks Elizabeth - have looked but can't find them after 1920 census.

kiterunner
17-07-11, 21:53
If you post up the info you have, I'll have a try, Julie.

JBee
18-07-11, 00:12
Thanks Kite

I was just wondering if there was a site that I could look up US births, marriages and deaths.

I would have thought ancestry would have had them but appears not to.

The family I'm after are:

Betsy/Elizabeth Barr born 18/2/1863 in Greenock, Scotland - who married
Patrick Fee born c1862 in Ireland
they married in June qtr 1885 in Sunderland, Durham

they had 3 children
Patrick Joseph Fee in 1885 in Sunderland, Durham
Margaret Fee in 1889 in Philadephia, Pennyslvania
Daniel Fee b 1898 in Philadephia, Pennyslvania

Patrick Fee arr in USA in 1886 - port and date of arrival nk
Elizabeth and Patrick jnr arrived in Philadelphia on 26/9/1887 on the Lord Clive from Liverpool.

Have them in 1910 at 1229 Melon St, Philadelphia, Penns
Patrick, 49 b Ireland, Mech Loco works
Elizabeth 47 b Scotland
Patrick 25 b England (Scotch), Tinroofer
Margaret 21 b Philadelphia, cashier grocery
Daniel 12 b Philadelphia
Frances Smith 8, b Philadelphia - adopted daughter
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 14, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T624_1391; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 0202; Image: 119; FHL Number: 1375404.



in 1920 Census at 1507 Edgely St
Patrick 58 b Ireland, boilermaker, locomotives
Elizabeth 56
Daniel 22 b Phildelphia, pipefitter
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 32, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T625_1633; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 1060; Image: 887.

There seems to be a number of Patrick Fees born in Ireland that appear in Pennsylvania

In the US all I seem to be able to find them on is the Census and they had't been naturalised by the 1920 census.

Many thanks for taking a look.

ElizabethHerts
18-07-11, 06:49
This seems to be Daniel in the 1930 Census:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/15YK-G5J/p_10409278361

ElizabethHerts
18-07-11, 06:50
Could this be Daniel's death?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/QQ8M-R2M/p1

kiterunner
18-07-11, 07:44
Thanks Kite

I was just wondering if there was a site that I could look up US births, marriages and deaths.

I would have thought ancestry would have had them but appears not to.



There is no national BMD index, apart from the Social Security Death Index. Ancestry has some BMD's from some states.

kiterunner
18-07-11, 07:55
There is a Patrick Fee age 70, widower born Ireland, labourer at ironworks, on the 1930 census living as a boarder with a family called Sherman in Ridley Township, Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Age at first marriage 25 years, immigrated 1880, naturalised. Could be him, although the year of immigration is a bit out?

kiterunner
18-07-11, 08:14
And it might be worth looking through the links on Cyndi's List:
http://www.cyndislist.com/us/pa/bmd/

JBee
18-07-11, 09:44
Thanks Kite

I think the Patrick Fee in 1930 who immigrated into US in 1880 is a different one - think I found him on an earlier census son of Patrick & Ann and he was naturalised whereas the Patrick I'm looking for wasn't naturalised in the 1920 census.

That could be very well be Daniel on the 1930 census but he says his mother was from Ireland when she was from Scotland and his occupation was "disabled?" whereas my Daniel was a pipefitter in the Navy yard in 1920. If it was him we were staying near to where he lived in 1930 when we visited in May.

Thanks you so much for your help.

I'll have a look on Cindy's list and probably put a thread on rootsweb.

Rosie Knees
18-07-11, 11:06
Julie, please can you tell me how you navigated to the NH marriages page? Hopefully there is a NY marriages (and births) page.

Thanks

JBee
18-07-11, 12:04
Which site are you referring to Rosie?

Do you mean Cyndy's List which Kite kindly directed me to. If so this is the NY page

http://www.cyndislist.com/us/ny/

I did find one of the links for Pennyslvania which took me onto ancestry.com and different american databases I hadn't found on .co.uk

If you were talking about familysearch.org then I put the place/state in where they'd lived.

Rosie Knees
21-07-11, 19:09
sorry for the delay Julie. it was the Family search page I was querying. I've just gone to the home page and entered my ancestor's name and NY and it's brought up a list. Thanks, didn't realise it would be that easy lol.

Also going to look at cyndislist, I'd forgotten about that and had lost the link at some stage during a pooter crisis.

Rosie Knees
21-07-11, 19:15
family search is not very good at picking up date ranges sadly. I searched for 1851 -1856 and got 111 hits, most of which were 1860 onwards! There were a couple of infant deaths in the right time scale but sadly no parents are listed. Disappointing.