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Sue from Southend
29-05-11, 13:33
Just been looking at some Ancestry trees .... and now I'm wondering, how likely is it that in 1856 a man born/living in Lambeth, Surrey would sail to NSW from Co Cork?

kiterunner
29-05-11, 15:33
Sounds unlikely but could the ship have started from Cork and then picked more passengers up in England, or vice versa?

Sue from Southend
29-05-11, 16:33
Hmmm, that's possible. Is there any way to find out?
This is the record http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=samuel&gsln=butcher&=&rb__81004201-date=1855&re__81004201-date=1856&rg_83004201__int=&rs_83004201__int=0&_82004210=&_82004200=&_82004280=&_F0002841=&gskw=&sbo=1&sbor=&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-c&pcat=40&h=335477&recoff=9+10&db=NSWassisted&indiv=1
I'm wondering now if "Origin Location" might mean where the ship was registered? And not necessarily where it started from!

Sue from Southend
29-05-11, 16:56
I've just found a website that states that the Morayshire left from London. So that works then!

Uncle John
29-05-11, 20:11
Most sailings to Australia at that time were from Liverpool, with some from London. It's highly likely they would pick up in Ireland on the way. The route followed the wind, so they actually sailed down the east coast of South America until they picked up the Roaring Forties. And the return journey was via Cape Horn - a circumnavigation.

HarrysMum
29-05-11, 23:09
There were a lot of ships to Australia from Cork. I have found two of my English lot sailing from Cork................many more of my Irish though.....lol

I have no idea what my poms were doing in Cork.....maybe they were hiding from the law??

tenterfieldjulie
30-05-11, 08:18
Cork was the main deep water port of immigration in Ireland and it is where the Titanic sailed from. It was then called Queenstown and is now called Cobh (prounced Cove). It has a web site that I haven't explored properly, but soon (I hope)

Sue from Southend
30-05-11, 08:58
Thank you for all your input. It looks to me as though he sailed from London and the route went via Cork as suggested by UJ. The record shows either the ship's place of registration or the last port of call before Australia?

I'm confident it is my Samuel and his family I was just intrigued by the Cork connection. I don't have much experience with immigrant ancestors but I seem to be learning:d

Uncle John
30-05-11, 10:49
The Morayshire isn't mentioned in my book, so it's not a Black Ball vessel. Have you tried Googling to see what turns up?

HarrysMum
30-05-11, 11:00
This tells you about the ship with a picture.

http://www.brendoncurgenven.co.uk/curgenven/index.html

HarrysMum
30-05-11, 11:04
I'd say the Norfolk/Pitcairn voyage would have been her next after your rellies landed here Sue.

http://www.shipstamps.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7401

Sue from Southend
30-05-11, 11:15
lol - That's my claim to fame! The ship that picked up the descendants of the Bounty mutineers was the ship that took the brother of my 2x gt grandfather to Australia :rolleyes:

HarrysMum
30-05-11, 11:23
Well done....we all need a little something to boast about.....lol