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Joy Dean
22-05-11, 14:08
My great-aunt Amy Mary Newton was born in 1870 in Hughenden, Buckinghamshire.

Here she is in the next two census:
1871 census Amy age 1, with her parents John, Labourer, age 37, Mary, Lacemaker, age 31, sisters and brothers, Elizabeth, Lacemaker, age 10, Ann, age 8, William, age 6, Herbert, age 3, living in Kingshill, Hughenden; parents and Elizabeth born Princes Risborough, all others born in Hughenden.
1881 census Amy Mary, age 11, with her parents John, Labourer, age 50, Mary, Lacemaker, age 43, both born Princes Risborough, brothers and sister, William Jesse, Labourer, age 16, Herbert, Labourer, age 13, Rose Adelaid, age 8, Isaac, age 3, Benjamin, age 10 months, all children born in Hughenden, living in Boss Lane, Hughenden.

She married John Brown Haig 28 October 1890 at Coldstream, Berwickshire, Scotland. She may be with him in 1891 in Scotland but have not yet found them there, nor anywhere else. In 1901 they were at 25 Zion Place in Margate with a seven-year-old son: John was a saddler and harness maker, age 32, born Scotland, Amy was age 30, born Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, and Andrew was age 7, born Croydon, Surrey.

In 1911 John Brown Haig, occupation: Fancy Leather And Athletic Goods, age 41, born Kelso, Rothburyshire, was with his "wife" Katie Mary Haig, age 35, born London, "married 10 years", at 2 Bravington Road, Paddington.
I cannot find his real wife, my great-aunt Amy, anywhere in 1911.

Amy died in 1939, John died in 1943, and his other "wife" in 1953.

My great-uncle Isaac Newton, known as Ike, went to live in Canada, so I have been told, in, maybe, the early 1900s, and I wondered if she might have gone to visit him for a while; but I can find neither :confused::)

Thank you.

kiterunner
22-05-11, 22:38
I had a look for her in 1911 the other day but with no luck.

Bellababe
23-05-11, 05:44
Have you checked the hospitals and asylums. I found one of mine that I couldn't find in 1901 and 1911 in nottingham asylum. I could find her husband and his 2nd wife in Sheffield but no trace of her. I couldn't find any trace of her husband remarrying until I looked further afield. He didn't remarry until 1920, after his first wife died. On the birth certificates of their children his second wife was using his surname and their marital status was married on the census.

Merry
23-05-11, 06:22
I couldn't find her either.

What happened to Andrew?

kiterunner
23-05-11, 07:22
If Andrew's their son, he died at Gallipoli, Merry.

kiterunner
23-05-11, 07:23
There's some stuff about them on this thread:
http://genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=329&page=6

Joy Dean
23-05-11, 22:35
Thank you for looking for her. I suppose that as it is thought that she was a nurse, maybe she was living in a nurses' home attached to a hospital and maybe her name was left off by mistake .... or :confused::)

Andrew's birth was registered as Andrew Newton Haig September qr 1893 Croydon district.
From soldiers died in the great war in ancestry site: he was Andrew Haig, birth place: Croydon, Surrey, residence: Coldstream, Berwick, death date: 12 July 1915, death location: Dardanelles, enlistment location: Coldstream, Berwick, rank: private, regiment: King's Own Scottish Borderers, battalion: 1/4th Battalion, number: 4380, type of casualty: killed in action, theatre of war: Balkan Theatre.

Merry
24-05-11, 05:50
Might both of them be in Scotland in 1911?

Joy Dean
24-05-11, 07:02
Thank you, Merry.
I looked but couldn't find them. I shall look again before I give up on the 1911; she was around somewhere :)

Merry
24-05-11, 08:00
Thank you for looking for her. I suppose that as it is thought that she was a nurse, maybe she was living in a nurses' home attached to a hospital and maybe her name was left off by mistake .... or :confused::)



As Andrew is also missing (isn't he?) wouldn't he most likely be with his mother and therefore unlikely she was living-in somewhere? It was because he was living at Coldstream, Berwick at some point on his army papers (2nd Nov 1912?) I thought they might have both been in Scotland in 1911.

Merry
24-05-11, 08:02
Oh, I see - Andrew was brought up by his aunt, so scrap what I just said in the previous post.

kiterunner
24-05-11, 08:02
Andrew was brought up by his aunt (snap, Merry!)

Joy Dean
20-09-12, 21:44
An update: In 1911 Andrew is an apprentice Sadler, living with his widowed paternal grandfather Andrew, a Sadler, and his aunt Agnes, in Coldstream, Berwick.
No sign yet of his mother Amy in 1911.

His grandfather Andrew died in 1913 and his grandmother Jane in 1902, according to trees in ancestry, and his aunt Agnes in 1947, I have seen her probate record in ancestry.

kiterunner
20-09-12, 22:04
I suppose Amy could be in Scotland too - it's not very easy to search the Scottish 1911 census at the moment as it is only on Scotland's People and you can't search by birthplace and you have to pay to look at the search results.

Joy Dean
03-10-12, 20:11
I shall keep searching:)

Shona
04-10-12, 07:50
I've carried out searches on SP for Amy Haig, Amy Hague and Amy Newton with an appropriate age range in 1911. No matches.

However, have noticed that there is an incoming passenger record on Ancestry for an Amy Newton arriving June 1911.

Given her estranged husband is living with his 'wife' in 1911, could Amy be living with someone else, too?

EDIT: Searched SP for Anny Newton and variants - two matches for 1911 census.

Joy Dean
04-10-12, 08:17
Thank you very much for searching.

Yes, I had wondered if she might be with someone else or just using her maiden name.

Thank you for noticing that in the passenger list. I have the image fully enlarged but can't quite read to what the mark refers under single or unaccompanied.

I used to think that great-uncle Isaac, known as Ike, went to Canada about that time and wondered if she had gone to see him, but he can't be found there!

Shona
04-10-12, 08:32
I read thal column as 'Single or not accompanied by husband or wife'.

Joy Dean
04-10-12, 09:03
Yes, thank you, so did I but there are two columns under that - maybe just male and female?

Shona
04-10-12, 11:49
That's right. Amy is female

Joy Dean
08-10-12, 15:52
Thank you. Now, if that is she, I wonder when she travelled abroad, and will I ever know? - probably not :)

Shona
08-10-12, 19:48
The Ancestors On Board web-site has details of when people left.

Joy Dean
10-10-12, 14:23
The Ancestors On Board web-site has details of when people left.

Thank you; I can't find her :(

Janet
10-10-12, 16:14
Thank you for that, Shona. Got the ship's manifest finally. I found by grandfather Walter Berry on board in 1912 as Walter Barry. Why didn't I think of that? :o Hope you turn something up soon too, Joy.